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Xeon or ?
show user profile  GloriaJean
I'm sure this question is asked time and again. I have some $$$ now and I want to build a new 3DS system. I do not play games. Strictly MAX and Photoshop.

Will a Xeon based system be better than an i7? Is a dual processor system provide any advantage.? Is the cost justified? Finally, which video card would you folks recommend?

Cost is not my primary concern although it is certainly a strong consideration.

Thank you very much.
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3/24/2016 2:07:54 AM (last edit: 3/24/2016 2:07:54 AM)
show user profile  9krausec
i7 cpu will be more affordable than dual xeons that have decent clock. If you aren't rendering a lot then i7 for sure in my mind.

Right now at work I run a over clocked i7 with 8 cores at 4ghz. Love it. That being said, I'm finally building another box in April with dual xeons for home. More expensive but better cost/Ghz ratio and I don't have a farm at my place (yet).

And in less than 2 years CPU rendering will probably be replaced with GPU. Is a dual xeon build really worth it? Depends on your returns from the investment.

If you want one cpu, i7. Two, xeons with a decent clock speed however you'll be shelling out a lot more money.. Be thoughtful of software you may use that is predominantly single threaded.

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3/24/2016 2:57:43 AM (last edit: 3/24/2016 2:57:43 AM)
show user profile  3Ddeath
I usually just got whatever is for the biggest market is since I figure you get the best bang for your buck that way instead of going the more specialized way.

Therefore I end up getting gaming hardware, non Quadro cards and I7s.

That's my logic that seems to work for me, there might be holes in the logic of course.

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3/24/2016 8:08:20 PM (last edit: 3/24/2016 8:08:20 PM)
show user profile  9krausec
F*ck Quadro cards. Expensive.

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3/24/2016 9:21:23 PM (last edit: 3/24/2016 9:21:23 PM)
show user profile  Nik Clark
And slower than gaming cards.

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3/24/2016 9:25:05 PM (last edit: 3/24/2016 9:25:05 PM)
show user profile  digs
aren't xeon's to i7's like quadro's are to gtx's?

ie, meant for long term rendering, or w/e? i fell into the rabbit hole for about an hour at work earlier

that 5930k looks nummy
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3/29/2016 1:20:43 AM (last edit: 3/29/2016 1:21:42 AM)
show user profile  9krausec
No, but yes. "Xeons" are supposedly better at surviving being cranking on shit 24/7 as were an i7 is supposedly not supposed to be cranking on shit 24/7.

The only difference that I give 2 shits about is that you can plug multiple xeons into a single board. So you want dual socketed rendering horse power? Xeons. No? i7.

Be wary of turbo boost. Do not look at the turbo boost frequency and consider that a "top clock". Turbo boost only kicks in if the temps are acceptable. More geared toward single threaded operations where only a couple CPUs are chunking away.

I'm not a CPU scientist though so I invite anyone here to correct me.

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3/29/2016 5:21:38 AM (last edit: 3/29/2016 5:21:38 AM)
show user profile  joelr
quadro and firegl cards are best used at OpenGL inviroments, that's why they are not best for max. Just for CAD software like solidworks and alias.


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3/29/2016 6:10:10 AM (last edit: 3/29/2016 6:10:10 AM)
show user profile  donvella
Im using a Quadro & Xeon for work, super reliable, super powerful.

Personally I would buy an i7 with a GTX card because... its cheaper and is pretty damn good for the reasons 9k mentioned.

However, the new Xeon chips support 32core (72 logical cores) which to me is a no brainer when looking for render power. I wouldnt be so hasty as to say GPU rendering is just around the corner - especially when Corona already mentioned there will be no GPU version - as CPU still has a bit of room in this game.

Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2696 v3 @ 2.30GHz (×2)

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3/29/2016 8:34:54 AM (last edit: 3/29/2016 8:34:54 AM)
show user profile  donvella
new player in the race

24gb quadro card

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3/30/2016 5:57:32 AM (last edit: 3/30/2016 5:57:32 AM)
show user profile  digs
i was thinking about this the other day, and after reading down the page i see.. "The target market for the 24GB M6000 is relatively straightforward: certain segments of the professional visualization market need all of the VRAM they can get"

so which segments of the professional viz market needs all that vram? is vram just used for pushing huge amounts of verts and textures around screen? ie, your viewport works better in enormous scenes?

i could never imagine paying 5k for 1 of those, not while the 980ti is a thing
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3/30/2016 7:27:47 AM (last edit: 3/30/2016 7:34:01 AM)
show user profile  9krausec
I agree. The price is a bit much for quadro cards. I appreciate that Quadro's are superior than GTX cards for 3D (be it different memory specs or due to driver retardation on the GTX cards). That new quadro looks like a beast though.

Speaking of the 980ti... Right now I'm comparing it to the Titan X (No.. I still haven't built my machine but plan to start it mid April. For sure. Absolutely going to happen).

Looks like they are about the same card for the most part, but the Titan has double the vRam. Thought on this? Is a 980ti a valid replacement for the Titan X when thinking from a 3D Art standpoint?

2 980ti cards vs a single Titan X? Same price, same vram, double the GPU processing (almost), but would it be better to have a single Titan X?

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3/30/2016 5:49:18 PM (last edit: 3/30/2016 5:49:18 PM)
show user profile  GloriaJean
I am overwhelmed by all the positive information. A veritable bounty of good food for thought. I want to thank each one of you for the valuable input. You folks know so much! and you are willing to share it. I really wish I could reciprocate.

Thank you, thank you!
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3/30/2016 10:00:22 PM (last edit: 3/30/2016 10:00:22 PM)
show user profile  digs
"titan" *thumbs up*

yes plz
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3/31/2016 2:29:10 AM (last edit: 3/31/2016 2:29:10 AM)
show user profile  9krausec
Yeah. That's what I'm leaning towards. The only reason is due to the doubled vRam... If I ever want to get a second one in a year or two I could always do that (if I needed to which I wont).

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3/31/2016 2:34:05 AM (last edit: 3/31/2016 2:34:05 AM)
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