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Xeon dual PC ... "on a budget"
show user profile  jp1979
So looking to start doing some 3D work at home in evenings and want to build or buy a decent PC that I can initially use for modelling, rendering stills and animations.... I currently only use work PC which is a i7-4790K with 980GTX but we have half a dozen PCs set up similar that we can use for farming when we do an animation...

So have limited my budget to 1k...
PCs options I have are:
2x Xeon E5-2670v1 (2.6ghz) 16cores total, 20 MB SmartCache... similar to this link
Total build approx £900-1000

a new i7 6700 - 4Ghz - 4cores
cost approx £1000

So my question are as both are a similar in price...

- will I notice much difference in speed working?

- If I did a animation would it render 3x-4x faster on xeon? as 4times the cores?
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9/26/2016 4:57:15 PM (last edit: 9/26/2016 4:57:15 PM)
show user profile  9krausec
If I were you I would get the dual Xeons out of those options... You are going to notice considerable better performance when it comes to render times.

The downside (and there always is a downside unless you have unlimited funds) is that a majority of functionality within a DCC software (Maya, 3ds) is going to be single threaded. So you can have 500 cores, but the software is only going to utilize ONE....

a 2.6ghz clock isn't super fast, but it's do-able. I have dual Xeons in my build and they are clocked at 3.0ghz (not much more than 2.6ghz) and I haven't noticed much of any performance drop with single threaded operations coming from a quad core Sandy and Ivy bridge at 4.5ghz..

I'd also recommend saving a little bit more if possible and splurging for a GTX 1080. The performance increase with the pascal architecture is awesome for viewport performance (I also ran GTX 980 and moved to GTX 1080... noticed a pretty big gain in viewport performance).

Dual Xeons motha fucka.

EDIT: Also I'd recommend the asus z10pe-d8 ws MB for dual Xeons. I work with two of those boards (one at work and one at home) and they have worked out VERY well. Supermicro has a few options, but Asus has always come through for me.

That board also supports v4 XEONS, but you need to do a Bios flash which you can do without any CPUs installed to get support for the v4 (unless they are now shipping with updated bios).

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9/26/2016 5:40:02 PM (last edit: 9/26/2016 5:42:50 PM)
show user profile  jp1979
Cheers, I was going towards the xeons.. hopefully at some point max can take more advantage of multi cores to....

cheers for recommendation on GTX 1080.... will blow budget! but might be worth it!

the motherboard is the killer....
Asus Z9PE-D8 WS - £450
Asus Z9PA-D8 - £300

Im probably going to go for the £300 one... I cant see many drawbacks?

As its a server board does any one know if there any problems with graphic card capability? ie 980GTX or 1080GTX
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9/26/2016 7:11:32 PM (last edit: 9/26/2016 7:11:32 PM)
show user profile  nemac
FX did a build recently too that's worth a look

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9/26/2016 10:03:57 PM (last edit: 9/26/2016 10:03:57 PM)
show user profile  FX
With hindsight I'd echo 9krausec and go for the big card, 16 x 2.9 cores are about the same as a single GTX 970...ish, when it comes to rendering, no real gain unless you double up the cards or go for a 1070 /1080.

I went for the ASRock EP2C602-4L/D16 for the size & extra pcie / mem slots, and there's a video on YouTube that walks you through the required bios settings...keep things easy, a good board, booted first time and never had an issue with it, it's usb 2.0 but plenty of room for a 3.0 card if needed.

Takes V1 and V2 xeons, I doubt if the market will get flooded with V2's the same as it did with V1's, but you never know.

Great for Cubase, AE, video rendering etc, It's a good gaming machine too, the xeons run A-10C Warthog pretty well, it's a bitch of an engine, probably the least optimised on the planet, I run it at 5670 x 1080.

Max multi-thread development is... (to quote Nik)... slower than coastal erosion, other than Vray it's a huge disappointment, a flaccid fart from the bumhole of AD.

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9/29/2016 2:35:26 AM (last edit: 9/29/2016 2:35:26 AM)
show user profile  Bolteon
"cheers for recommendation on GTX 1080.... will blow budget! but might be worth it!"

Go for a 1070 from Asus... much better bang for buck factor (80% speed for 50% cost).

-Marko Mandaric

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10/2/2016 10:16:32 AM (last edit: 10/2/2016 10:16:32 AM)
show user profile  Nik Clark
Agreed there. Always buy the one below the top of the line with new Nvidia cards.

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10/2/2016 11:06:27 AM (last edit: 10/2/2016 11:06:27 AM)
show user profile  9krausec
Good point Bolts. As long as it has that Pascal architecture (which I believe it does).

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10/2/2016 6:05:10 PM (last edit: 10/2/2016 6:05:10 PM)
show user profile  geoffneck
I just purchased two Xeons based on a similar article I read to get a cheap workstation (although I'm using mine as a render slave). I'm still waiting for the CPU's from the states, but are expected in the next couple of days. I've purchased the Asus Z9PA-D8. I always use ASUS as I rarely have problems with their Hardware, 16G of ECC memory, Two Hyper T4 coolers, Corsair AX760W PSU.

As its a slave, I wont be putting a GFX card in, but If the system looks like it will run as a decent WS, then I may consider another one for a desktop. The CPU price alone makes this a pretty decent bargain!

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10/4/2016 1:32:11 PM (last edit: 10/4/2016 1:32:11 PM)
show user profile  Bolteon
...or just rent:

-Marko Mandaric

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10/4/2016 7:29:53 PM (last edit: 10/4/2016 7:29:53 PM)
show user profile  soontekk
top end cards are also stressed for performance, much noisier, more powerhungry/hot and shorter life span

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10/5/2016 8:50:23 AM (last edit: 10/5/2016 8:50:53 AM)
show user profile  geoffneck
Just thought I'd come back to this as I've now received my CPU's from ebay and installed Max/Vray. I rendered a scene that took 8:59 on my i7 3.6GHz Quad, and only took 2:45 on the Dual CPU system I built for £980. not a bad purchase for a render slave.

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10/11/2016 6:06:33 PM (last edit: 10/11/2016 6:06:33 PM)
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