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Windows 7 recover/install pls halp!
show user profile  mike_renouf
Okay.. so I screwed up.

I upgraded the powersupply and graphics card in my machine and all was fine. Then I made a complete f**k-up and shorted something when putting the case cover back in place - didn't switch off before touching. I'll never do that again. stupidstupidstupidstupid

Now I have a new mobo and new power supply to replace the ones that I stupidly destroyed. Mobo is better than the original, but its not the same as the one that came with this HP pavillion machine in question.

So I restart my repaired machine and there's a problem with windows starting up. Probably hard disk error caused by unplanned shutdown when the short occured. I tried the startup repair. No joy. I tried recovering from a previous system image. No joy. I tried reformatting and reinstalling from the rescue partition. All seems good, "Windows is setting up for the first usage" or words to that effect. Then windows cannot continue and it shuts down - rinse and repeat.

I'm thinking that because the mobo has been replaced, the chipset, etc has changed and my windows7 oem version won't be useable on this hardware. Is this right? Any suggestions of where to go now.. please!!?




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1/17/2014 4:30:21 PM (last edit: 1/17/2014 4:30:21 PM)
show user profile  Lazmo67
I had something similar, wouldn't get past setting up stage. Luckily I had another hard disk with windows 7 on. I put that in along side the one that wouldn't boot and for some reason it booted fine on the other disk. Ran a repair on the disk that wouldn't boot and then it booted ok. Not sure if that's really any help and i've no idea why it worked but it did.
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1/17/2014 5:17:47 PM (last edit: 1/17/2014 5:17:47 PM)
show user profile  TiMoN
In BIOS under Storage / SATA settings. Make sure that you are running the same mode as you were on your old machine.
Standard today is AHCI, which is best. In the old days, it was IDE or Compatibility mode.
If you have a windows installation, which was originally set up with IDE, then it will never boot if the BIOS is set to AHCI mode. Not even after a windows repair.
The recovery installation, could possibly force a driver type on the windows installation.

If it is not just an issue with the storage driver, then it could very well be some other motherboard specific driver.
What you could do then is get hold of a windows OEM installation disk, install that, and then activate it with the Seriel key you have.. http://best-windows.vlaurie.com/boot-disks.html#full
havent tried this site. but could be useful.

Also when changing motherboard, remember to set the storage drivers to windows standard drivers, as this will often cause problems when booting an old windows installation on new hardware. (I know you did not have this option though,..)

Edit.. Again.. Can you boot in safe mode?
If no, then it is pretty likely a hardware issue, or storage driver issue.
If yes, then it could be another driver/Hp specific program causing the issue.

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1/17/2014 5:51:08 PM (last edit: 1/17/2014 6:04:48 PM)
show user profile  mike_renouf
Thanks for the detailed responses guys. I'll try some of these options and report back!
Looking at the new motherboard's documentation I can't see an option to change sata settings anywhere, but it may be ins submenu of the bios. At the moment the machine is in the middle of another attempt at restoring a system image, so I can't do much. Fingers crossed...




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1/17/2014 8:01:41 PM (last edit: 1/17/2014 8:01:41 PM)
show user profile  Mr_Stabby
SATA/AHCI mode would be my first suspect too all though it doesn't explain why it wont do a fresh install.
Things that i know of that can cock up a fresh install like that are a) corrupted installer b) broken boot table or incompatible partition, both solvable if you outright delete the old partition and create a new one (instead of formatting)

Windows will complain if you swap out your motherboard but only after you're actually in windows (will have to reactivate over the phone or something).

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1/18/2014 9:33:31 PM (last edit: 1/18/2014 9:33:31 PM)
show user profile  mike_renouf
Well, I bit the bullet and got some help because nothing I tried was working. I did try changing the sata mode but it seemed to make no difference. Maybe it was the partition structure as you say Stabby.

I'm glad I'm back up and running but its been an annoyingly expensive and frustrating few days. The PC shop checked if I'd got proper backups and, since I had, they wiped everything and reinstalled Win7 from scratch, installed mobo drivers.

New mobo didn't have wireless lan so I've bought a dongle. New graphics card has micro hdmi rather than standard HDMI socket, so I've bought another dongle. Then I found that the micro hdmi socket is too close to the metal of the case to allow the dongle to be plugged in. so I bought a cable. Grrrr. The case fan has developed a very loud whine, so the PC as a whole is deafening. Case fan is disconnected at present, so I'm keeping an eye on temperatures. Front panel USB3 sockets not working for some reason, so I'll have to take a look at then.

Lesson to self. Don't f**k about with PCs.

Many many thanks to you guys for your suggestions and ideas.




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1/18/2014 9:56:53 PM (last edit: 1/18/2014 9:56:53 PM)
show user profile  TiMoN
IF the the Case fan is connected to the mobo, you may be able to set a max speed for it in the BIOS. If its connected straight to a Molex plug (the old HDD power plug), then you can get a variable resistor, so that you can adjust its speed.

Edit> If you change speeds in BIOS and it does not appear to have any effect. It is sometimes caused by connecting fans with 3-pins to 4-pin mobo plugs, or the other way around. The Fan will spin no matter what configuration, but the speed configuration may only work when the jack and the plug have the same number of pins.. Just a little heads up, and I am not sure this goes for every mobo.

Front panel USB3 not working, is either because it is not connected to the mobo properly, these cables are always stiff as hell, and the plug on the mobo will disconnect if you look at it wrong..
Or no USB3 drivers, which need to be installed separately, unlike USB2, which Windows automatically installs drivers for.
The drivers should be on the CD that came with the mobo.

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1/18/2014 11:18:53 PM (last edit: 1/19/2014 12:12:29 PM)
show user profile  mike_renouf
Thanks again Timon.
Fan is directly connected to mobo so I'll investigate the bios- cheers good tip
The USB3 drivers are up and running (there are two functional ports on the back ie direct from the mobo, so you're probably correct about the cable being disconnected/faulty.

Getting somewhere now.




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1/19/2014 12:35:48 AM (last edit: 1/19/2014 12:35:48 AM)
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