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show user profile  STRAT
important point - i know FEKKALL about anything about cameras.

Hi chaps

was thinking i might like to get into phototography and all that. try my hand at being a photo'ist. I'm pretty ok with the theory of taking photos, fstops, exposure etc etc, but not with the hardware. all i know is i want a dslr. (had a regular slr about 30 years ago as a kid).

so i want a nice decent camera. money isnt too much of an issue, but obviously dont want to go overboard. and i want a nice camera from the word go that'll do me nicely for ever more. not interested in a zillion gadgets, settings and lens attachments, not even after the highest megapixel shot, just something that takes a bloody decent photo.

initially i wanted a Leica camera because i remember my uncle had one (its long gone now). nice and simple, elegant, retro, great photys, but ferk, they aren't half bleedin expensive.

but i love the look. silver and old fashioned. dont like the new/black/faceless ones. boring.

does this look good -

what do you think?


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10/15/2015 11:16:08 AM (last edit: 10/15/2015 11:21:15 AM)
show user profile  cartwright_mj
Im a wedding photographer and I could answer all your questions on Canon products. I use a full frame 5D3, considered a pro camera. That said, there is a real buzz at the moment in the community for the Fuji XT1. I met with a fellow togger at the weekend and he is shooting full weddings on them. Inexpensive compared to my camera, compact and has a live view exposure, so thhe display changes as you dial, it was amazing
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10/15/2015 12:20:59 PM (last edit: 10/15/2015 12:20:59 PM)
show user profile  zeefusion
I was in the same situation and asked everyone on the forums too. I ended up getting the Samsung NX300 after a recommendation from soontekk. Its small, good looking and having detachable lenses is great. Even though at first you may not appreciate it but later down the line you may wish to experiment with other lenses.

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10/15/2015 12:36:31 PM (last edit: 10/15/2015 12:38:44 PM)
show user profile  chillywilson
I have to shoot with all sorts of gear, cannon, sony, nikon, phase one and hasselblad.

Those Leica's are very limited.

I'll tell you what I tell everyone that asks about what camera should I get.

None at first, List out what your interests are, maybe having video is becoming important for you and a GH4 seems right, or you want more portrait style so a 5ds, d810, d750, A7ii. Is your thing.

go to camera store feel them out and then go to borrow lenses or, lumoid is super cheap and awesome.

rent a package and see if one is up your ally for the feel cost look and ability.

When you buy a camera your also marring the lens mounts and the access abilities that comes with that particular system, so make sure you get what you want.

If you need direction like if you think you'll want more low light shooting let me know, I'll send you in the right direction.

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10/15/2015 2:36:44 PM (last edit: 10/15/2015 2:38:21 PM)
show user profile  STRAT
thanks guys.

i'm not a pro. dont intend to be. i'm still happy using iphone for photos. thats my level. just want to venture a bit higher. i'm an absolute hobbyist. holiday photos. non-profit photos. occasional use (compared to a pro).

not interesting in spending money of pro stuff. besides, i'd hardly use it.

im more interested in spending money on cool looking stuff that'll just raise my game a touch. i like the white/silver that zeefusion suggested.

what's up with the Leica? limited in what way? does it take a cracking photo?


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10/15/2015 3:06:36 PM (last edit: 10/15/2015 3:06:36 PM)
show user profile  chillywilson
That Leica is a fixed 35mm max lens, that means any close portraits will look like bubble heads.
Essentially that camera is good for street photos and that's about it.

Nx300 is ok the nx500 has a lot more capabilities.

personally I think crop sensor like a d7100 or a rebel with a 18-300 3.5 - 6.3 should cover all your needs and you wont have to put up with the mirror less camera hiccups like focusing at night.

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10/15/2015 3:30:52 PM (last edit: 10/15/2015 3:30:52 PM)
show user profile  STRAT
i like the look of the samsung better to be honest.


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10/15/2015 3:38:50 PM (last edit: 10/15/2015 3:38:50 PM)
show user profile  zeefusion
Ah didn't realise the NX500 is now out, looks good.
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10/15/2015 4:50:42 PM (last edit: 10/15/2015 4:50:42 PM)
show user profile  chillywilson
Have you ever thought of the sony a7, i have one and feels like and old 35
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10/15/2015 7:33:30 PM (last edit: 10/15/2015 7:33:30 PM)
show user profile  STRAT
Why too expensive mate


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10/15/2015 7:51:47 PM (last edit: 10/15/2015 7:51:47 PM)
show user profile  chillywilson
yeah 1200 for lens and camera is bit steep for a starter kit.

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10/15/2015 8:07:28 PM (last edit: 10/15/2015 8:07:28 PM)
show user profile  nemac
Hi Strat,

Why do you want a DSLR? For me it was the ability to change lenses (and lens availability on the system I went with), AF accuracy, and an optical viewfinder feeling more natural over an electronic viewfinder that would take a split second to initiate - which became a distraction that only presented a reference of the world. EVFs ofcourse are getting better and better and have their advantages and a mirrorless system would be nice and portable, but you have to decide what's important.

Most cameras these days are very capable but it's more like this: photographer > glass > camera.

That leica is a compact and like chilly said it would be limiting. But depends what you want to do. Sounds like you want something compact, simple yet uninhibiting for general use, with a budget of <1000.

I might recommend going with an MFT system over samsung for popularity -> value, lens availability (if it matters) and a fast standard prime do-it-all type lens. You would be surprised by how much you can do with a standard fast prime and how much it will improve your photography by forcing you to think about things.

That said, how about an Olympus E-M5 + Panasonic 20/1.7 pancake lens?

Size compared to Canon 5D3 (500g):,312.345,ha,t

Shots taken with the 20/1.7:

There's a crazy deal atm for an E-M5 + 14-42 kit for $500, I think since the newer model came out so they are moving stock. The cam alone is $480 new or $380 refurbished. You could get that and literally throw away the lens then buy a 20/1.7 or a 25/1.4 prime, or better yet actually use the kit for a while and figure out what focal length you find yourself using the most then upgrade the lens.

NX300 + 30/f2 could be an interesting combo too but the lack of viewfinder (addon I guess?) and point-and-shoot like ergonomics don't entice me.

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10/16/2015 3:19:12 PM (last edit: 10/16/2015 3:49:33 PM)
show user profile  ijzerman
Ive got a old pro camera, a nikkon D200 and while its a really good cam, its super bulky and since i got a decent lens i never changed it for something else. I would get a micro four thirds if i were to buy one now.

look at this pretty thing:
Its decent priced, you can change lenses(cheap samyang anyone?) you can film and they look great :)
Oh and nice and small :)


Pushing buttons since "86
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10/16/2015 4:42:02 PM (last edit: 10/16/2015 4:43:16 PM)
show user profile  cnopicilin
I started out with the canon 1000D, which was fine for photographs (Pretty much any DSLR can get you great shots), but I wanted to get HD video as well, so I got the canon 60D. It didn't take long with the 1000D before I got a tamron lense to replace the kit one. I'd go with a big brand (canon, nikon) which have long support and they have the simplest of standards so it's easy to upgrade later on. The starter DLSRs like the "new" 1100D start at pretty low prices for the quality.
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10/17/2015 12:39:46 PM (last edit: 10/17/2015 12:39:46 PM)
show user profile  BishBashRoss
That Leica is essentially a tarted up Panasonic lf1 for twice the price.

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10/17/2015 1:21:22 PM (last edit: 10/17/2015 1:21:22 PM)
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