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UK: FreeView + Smart TV questions....
show user profile  STRAT
Hi guys, anyone in the UK who has an intimate knowledge of freeview tv on smart tv's and can answer me some nuubee questions possibly pls?


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12/31/2013 5:57:50 PM (last edit: 12/31/2013 5:57:50 PM)
show user profile  Boing
Just bought a Samsung UE40F6400AKX at Christmas, I'm just getting into it but I can tell you what I know.
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1/1/2014 9:15:41 PM (last edit: 1/1/2014 9:15:41 PM)
show user profile  STRAT
ah, thanks mate. lets see....

we currently own sky+ (with the dual recording facility) and a regular flat screen 32 inch tv. i'm happy, and we have no issues paying for the Sky subscription.

my wife wants a new 40 inch smart tv with free view. says the free view might save us 20 bucks or so a month. ok, but........

1) freeview, can i add premium channels to it like sports and discovery? i dont mind paying for them of course.

2) how can i record? i presume i'll need to buy in extra kit like a pvr?

3) this smart tv thing, which in my mind is basically a tv with built in internet. how do i browse the web with a tv remote? or do they come with external keyboards?

seems a faff to me why i cant just keep on using Sky+

cheers dude.


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1/2/2014 9:47:58 AM (last edit: 1/2/2014 9:51:41 AM)
show user profile  Boing
1) No, Freeview is what it is, you plug an aerial into a digital TV and you get a list of tv and radio stations for free but you can't add Sky channels or sports to it. Freesat and Youview are also free to air but you need a satellite dish and decoder to watch them, if you already have a dish then you just need to buy the decoder, it's a one-off fee then nothing more.

Standard Freesat boxes don't get sky channels but Sky do a Freesat service where you buy their decoder and I think you might be able to get their channels on that but as I don't use it I couldn't tell you for sure, check it out here.

I don't know if their decoder has any PVR capabilities but there's a FAQ list on that page.

2) On Freeview you will need a PVR or DVD/HDD recorder, make sure they have digital tuners and preferably a Freeview HD tuner so you can record the HD channels.

3) Think of them as a big mobile phone, they come with apps, browsers and connectivity advantages. On my old tv, if I wanted to watch a ripped movie I needed my tv, X-Box, router and laptop switched on, with a smart tv you just put the movie on a memory stick and plug it into a USB slot and the TV will play it directly.

The apps include catch-up tv services, currently Samsung are the only people offering total mainstream channel coverage (I-Player, UTV player, CH4-OD, CH5 demand) most other just offer I-Player and maybe 4-OD. The browser seems to be a standard Explorer type affair. Some people on wireless connections complain of dropped connections but I'm wired into the router and the speed seems fine on 30Mb Virgin cable.

As for test input, the Samsung I have gives you two controllers, one with a touchpad for browsing, text input is by on-screen keyboard which is a bit clunky but the browser seems fully featured so once you've got your favourite sites bookmarked you don't put much text in. Some Smart TV's do sell bluetooth keyboards but you'll need to ask around to get feedback on that,
is a decent place to start.

The freeview HD channels are pretty good, not as clean as the SKY HD from what I've heard but good enough to know you're watching HD.

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1/2/2014 12:12:54 PM (last edit: 1/2/2014 12:17:17 PM)
show user profile  STRAT
thanks mate. why i should give up my dual recording facility and sky package for freeview?, i dont know. i haven't seen one compelling argument for it as yet. other than monthly cost saving, which i can afford anyway.

as for the smart tv side of things? i suppose i can take it or leave it. at present if i want to use internet through my tv i just plug my ipad via hdmi cable into it. nice and easy and hd too.

i wonder if the same tv without smart would be that much cheaper.

thanks again mate, thats more or less answered my questions


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1/2/2014 12:26:24 PM (last edit: 1/2/2014 12:26:24 PM)
show user profile  Boing
No problem. If money is no problem then Sky or Virgin subscriptions probably a better service they certainly offer more channels. As for dual recording, Virgin does a box that records 3 channels and lets you watch a fourth and you can also get a Humax PVR for Freeview that'll record 2 channels at once.

As for prices, a non smart tv will probably be 15-20% cheaper as a ballpark figure.

If you're happy with what you have and can afford it you may as well stick with it though.
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1/2/2014 12:43:07 PM (last edit: 1/2/2014 12:43:07 PM)
show user profile  Cube
Strat... check out YouView.
TBH though for premium content and sport you cant really beat Sky
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1/2/2014 2:50:03 PM (last edit: 1/2/2014 2:50:03 PM)
show user profile  Lazmo67
I've got my tv and internet through YouView. Similar to sky, cheaper but, as Cube, says not all the content, although pretty close. Depends what you're after though. It's more than enough content for me as I don't watch too much TV. (no smart tv)

HD PVRsupplied records 2 channels at once (although what you can then watch is limited unless you bypass and use your TV freeview direct. but to be honest that's never been an issue.

The online content (catch up tv etc) can be a bit temperamental depending on your internet connection speed and where you place your router (I could easily sort my connection problems by placing the router closer to the junction box but that would require some cabling to the PC which is upstairs (TV connection is currently wifi) so can't be bothered or upgrade to a fibre optic connection). Mine's through Talk Talk but BT offer a similar service ((more expensive) but with a mobile wifi option and they seem to be buying up sport rights like it's going out of fashion. BT can get pretty expensive when you want unlimited downloads. Talk Talk offer this as standard.

I went through the same problems comparing all the options and they change so frequently too!

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1/2/2014 3:46:18 PM (last edit: 1/2/2014 3:46:18 PM)
show user profile  mrgrotey
Digs: no talk about pirated/illegal ways of doing things here please. The argument of 'everyone knows about it' does not stand up. Everyone knows about murder too... Go figure.

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1/3/2014 8:50:36 AM (last edit: 1/3/2014 8:50:36 AM)
show user profile  digs
i figured - didn't know if that was legal" or not - my b
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1/3/2014 9:27:32 AM (last edit: 1/3/2014 9:31:54 AM)
show user profile  STRAT
Thanks guys.

Gonna keep sky+ and take freeview as it comes, if at all. The Smart side is what it is and'll just save me plugging my ipad in in essence. Cheers.

I'm to murder who?


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1/3/2014 9:50:45 AM (last edit: 1/3/2014 9:50:45 AM)
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