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New Turbosquid alternative
show user profile  BishBashRoss
New site offering 100 percent royalties for a year on stuff uploaded before 2012. Looks like a good alternative to turbosquid.

http://blog.cgtrader.com/2011/12/16/christmas-gift-by-cgtrader-100-on-sale-for-3d-models-uploaded-from-now-till-the-end-of-2011/






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12/28/2011 11:09:48 PM (last edit: 12/28/2011 11:09:48 PM)
show user profile  ccampbell
Sweet find.




$Entrepreneur = if((Designer + Engineer)*Programmer){Problem Solver};



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12/29/2011 7:00:31 AM (last edit: 12/29/2011 7:00:31 AM)
show user profile  Dave
A great incentive to get people using it. Seems a bit strange that they'd announce it mid-December though. Doesn't give people much time to react (although I suppose it works in their favour, thinking about it).

I'm still not sure where I stand with the whole SquidGuild thing, I know I'm tied into it (and don't want to leave it), but for selling on other sites, I'm unsure if it's just the products I have on TS that I can't re-sell, or if it's any product. (ie, I'm tied down, as opposed to my assets)

"I flew over Egypt once"

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12/29/2011 5:00:22 PM (last edit: 12/29/2011 5:00:22 PM)
show user profile  mrgrotey
Its just the products that you have on turbosquid. They dont own you just techinically the products you are selling on there.




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12/29/2011 5:14:42 PM (last edit: 12/29/2011 5:14:42 PM)
show user profile  Jock
Afriad not, youre not allowed to sell any other products regardless of whether they are on TS or not.

It only applies to models though if I remember correctly so you could sell tutorials etc elsewhere.

Though having said that, I mean all you need to do is make sure your user name is different and I cant see how they would ever know.

Edit: re-reading terms and conditions, the only exception with models is if Turbosquid happen to decline one of your models, but like I say, how would they ever know.
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12/29/2011 5:32:59 PM (last edit: 12/29/2011 5:35:09 PM)
show user profile  horizon
by googling?

click me

the first one is mine on TS

And like I said before, I had the same models on TS and on 3dStudio. 3dStudio was bragging of how much less of a percentage they take compared to TS. I never sold anything on there so they can take the whole 100% of the zero I earned while being there.


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12/29/2011 11:36:29 PM (last edit: 12/29/2011 11:38:40 PM)
show user profile  Bolteon
"Afriad not, youre not allowed to sell any other products regardless of whether they are on TS or not."


pretty sure there are arbitration laws against that sort of practice in the US.


i def didn't know about that though; glad i never signed up to sell anything on turbo squid.

-Marko Mandaric



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12/30/2011 12:29:15 AM (last edit: 12/30/2011 12:29:15 AM)
show user profile  horizon
You may want to define that any other product a bit better. I'm sure selling my car is still ok, and probably creating models as a freelancer is too.
Also, you can quit being exclusive any time, but there is probably a buffer zone after that when you still cannot sell models on other stock model sites

When signing up to be exclusive for iStockPhoto, the agreement stated I cannot sell any stock photography on any other site, being it on iStock itself or not.
The explanation then stated it is ok to sell photos to be printed, shoot photos as a freelancer, and sell other stock materials I don't sell on iStock (illustrations, audio, video etc...)


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12/30/2011 12:50:37 AM (last edit: 12/30/2011 12:51:32 AM)
show user profile  Jock
Id assume most people on here would have the sense to realise they can still sell their car and dont need it explaining to them that im talking about 3D models.

If you have any queries just read the squidguild terms and conditions, its all in there and pretty clear.

Also, why would googling help if you put up a totally unrelated models to anything you have on TS and under a different name....unless google can do things im not aware of.

@bolts: there may well be, im not that clued up on that sort of thing, but at the same time, people dont need to sign up to it. Albeit, without it the royalty is quite low. It was a bit of a no brainer for me when i done the maths, but i know others who done the maths and it wasnt in their interest,
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12/30/2011 1:12:31 AM (last edit: 12/30/2011 1:17:17 AM)
show user profile  CGTrader
Hi everyone,

As related to this topic, here is an interview about CGTrader business model on TideArt.com: http://blog.cgtrader.com/2011/12/30/interview-on-tideart-com-about-cgtrader/

Let me know if you have any questions.
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www.cgtrader.com - peer-to-peer marketplace for 3d artists. Sell 3d models directly to your customers!
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12/30/2011 9:20:02 AM (last edit: 12/30/2011 9:20:55 AM)
show user profile  horizon
>>why would googling help if you put up a totally unrelated models to anything you have on TS and under a different name

And what would that do for me?
If I can't have ALL my models on both of the sites to maximize gain, I'd want all of them on the better site, right?.
I can't compare the sites if the models are different, and all I've got now is 2 sources of the income separated without a reason.

I'm missing the point here

PS: Don't assume anything, here is a return I had on TS :P



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12/30/2011 1:16:16 PM (last edit: 12/30/2011 1:19:12 PM)
show user profile  advance-software
not getting into this in depth as it's not my problem, but, a legal person can be an individual or a company, so if everything done by one legal entity (person) must be assigned to ts, you could work around that by delivering via a company.

eg. RandomArtist1 TurboSquid Limited
eg. RandomArtist1 SomeOtherService Limited

then deliver your work via the companes rather than personally. no idea if it's worth the hassle or even an issue but thought I'd throw that out there.

There may be laws in other jurisdications that limit the behaviour it sounds like they're trying to enforce.

e.g Unfair Contract Terms Act in the UK.

Best bet would be to consult an IP lawyer. Just because some company says this is how it is doesn't mean it's necessarily legal.
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12/30/2011 1:26:21 PM (last edit: 12/30/2011 1:37:20 PM)
show user profile  BishBashRoss
You could put similar but slightly different stuff on each site to compare. Also, by putting work on a different site you are investing in competition for Turbosquid, which is good for you in the long run.





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12/30/2011 1:27:33 PM (last edit: 12/30/2011 1:27:33 PM)
show user profile  advance-software
then you get into the whole derived work/original work debate. for them to have an exclusive right to sub-license & distribute any given work you submit is reasonable. to own your brain isn't.

if they have an exclusive license to distribute a work & then you break that & distribute elsewhere they could sue you for breach of contract. whether they would or not is another matter.
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12/30/2011 1:29:13 PM (last edit: 12/30/2011 1:38:30 PM)
show user profile  BishBashRoss
I meant stuff like for example a door. one type of door on one site and one on another. If you really are restricted to just one site, even with different work you could also put it up under your partner/wife/husband etc.

I think the competition point needs to be made again though. If Turbosquid continues to eat up competitors expect your royalties to keep shrinking and shrinking.





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12/30/2011 1:36:14 PM (last edit: 12/30/2011 1:36:14 PM)
 
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