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Tough Love Required
show user profile  Jock
Ok some of the above is needed here to please dont hold back.

This image is annoying me, ive produced far better before and yet this one looks like crap and for some reason, whether its the fact ive been staring at it too long i cant seem to just put my finger on the problem and rectify it.

So can you guys please point out what exactly is so bad with the image and if anyone has any ideas as to what i need to do to get it to actually look realistic and blend more with the background?

Things i already know:

- Shadows are very wrong, background needs to match the 3D model with regards sun direction
- Youd never really just walk out onto grass, so needs a wee patio or something.

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6/14/2011 3:16:19 PM (last edit: 6/14/2011 3:19:44 PM)
show user profile  Nik Clark
Initial impression, it looks washed out. The black levels look different to the background plate. Also, the wall texture looks like it has no bump or displacement map. Other than that, it looks good to me.



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6/14/2011 3:22:22 PM (last edit: 6/14/2011 3:22:22 PM)
show user profile  advance-software
not digging the wall texture - too regular ?

don't like the style of the patio door handles.
step outside patio doors too narrow ?
absence of patio

otherwise, I love it.
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6/14/2011 3:24:22 PM (last edit: 6/14/2011 6:53:22 PM)
show user profile  Jock
Cheers guys. Hope to get the time to have another bash at this tonight so i'll be taking all on board when i do.

Just as well you pointed out the handles, those on the main house havent been lifted by the looks of it when the door was, so now are too low.

The stonework was the closest I had to the one I had to match but might do some work with the bump and see why its not showing up well, or might even go try and find a better texture thats somewhat similar.
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6/14/2011 3:37:07 PM (last edit: 6/14/2011 3:37:07 PM)
show user profile  Dave

The stone just cuts straight off here. I'm also not convinced by the join of the windows to the house wall there, would they really just be slapped on like that, without stone being placed first? This is the area I mean:

Don't be too hard on yourself though, it's looking convincing without getting nit-picky.

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6/14/2011 6:24:42 PM (last edit: 6/14/2011 6:24:42 PM)
show user profile  reeves1984
Yeah it's looking good but good hussle on getting the crits!

Like Dave said but I thought above where he marked the wall on the house above the conservatory is a very straight line of stone. And maybe the front corner of the consercatory the stones look they're bending around the corner rather than being corner stones?

Possibly on the washed out thing, can't see much detail in the glass reflections?

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6/14/2011 6:47:25 PM (last edit: 6/14/2011 6:47:25 PM)
show user profile  albongino
It looks very decent to me,

AS mentioned, the washed out effect is present in the cottage. that can be easily fixed in Photoshop,

The black shingle needs to be washed though, it's too black right now as mentioned too.

adjust the door handles, displace the bricks, and also, for an extra touch, you may notice on most brick and stone walls, where there's a window or a door threshold, right on top there is a row of bricks stacked vertically or a Lintel. you should add that.



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6/14/2011 7:08:12 PM (last edit: 6/14/2011 7:08:12 PM)
show user profile  Jock
Cheers guys, good points. Most come down to spending more time in photoshop with slight tweaks like amending corners to look right, and wall corners too straight. Same with glass reflections. I'll be giving it another bash, thanks.

The junction from the conservatory to the wall though is as it should be, you just have a square timber post between the window sash and the wall. Some designs you'll have some wall but through neccesity, just for design purposes.

Also, for the lintol i'm glad you mentioned it because no closer inspection there is in fact a stone lintol (hard to see in the photo due to trees), albeit as shown would be fine if they had a catnic lintel or the likes, but yes in this case your quite right :)
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6/14/2011 7:53:54 PM (last edit: 6/14/2011 7:53:54 PM)
show user profile  mike_renouf
Is it me or should there not be a long shadow infront of the whole building? Judging by the shadows on the backplate your sun angle is all out of sync?

Edit: damn - sorry you said that already. *facepalm*




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6/14/2011 8:43:17 PM (last edit: 6/14/2011 8:44:57 PM)
show user profile  Mashedpot8er
Its the window reflection mate. 100%

You got a dark bush to the right and whiteish reflections on that side, its making it look fake. Fix that and it will sit right in there. :)




Cad Monkey


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6/14/2011 11:35:51 PM (last edit: 6/14/2011 11:35:51 PM)
show user profile  Jock
Thanks guys.

Now I havent managed to address all the issues yet as its nearly 12 and still got another job to finish but having spent a little more on it tonight, this is where its at.


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6/15/2011 12:41:15 AM (last edit: 6/15/2011 12:41:15 AM)
show user profile  roccodiablo
looks much better.

Perhaps a touch of AO would bring out some of the details in the windows?


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6/15/2011 9:10:50 AM (last edit: 6/15/2011 9:10:50 AM)
show user profile  jareu
a million times better!

for some extra touches, I would try and make some slightly longer grass along the ege of the wall, as its hard to mow the lawn that perfectly along a wall. that would help blend the wall with the lawn.



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6/15/2011 9:24:16 AM (last edit: 6/15/2011 9:24:16 AM)
show user profile  Mashedpot8er
There seems to be a bit of a red colour shift on it. Reflections look much better, you could probably still go a bit darker though.




Cad Monkey


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6/15/2011 12:27:51 PM (last edit: 6/15/2011 12:27:51 PM)
show user profile  advance-software
just noticed the stripe on the top & bottom of the brick wall by the driveway. yuk.

would take the stripe off the top. bottom one is quite stylish on its own.

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6/15/2011 12:37:07 PM (last edit: 6/15/2011 12:38:57 PM)
 
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