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teh maxforums oil leak thread ...
show user profile  advance-software
http://www.mediaite.com/online/in-light-of-bps-failures-russian-nuclear-option-for-stopping-leak-gaining-traction/

Nuke it ?


Not being a geologist or having any skills whatsoever in this area, I have no idea how bad the problem is, whether such drastic action is likely to succeed, or whether it might make the problem worse. Could an explosion rip the entire top off the underground reserve ? How deep is the oil field below the seabed ?

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6/16/2010 5:29:07 PM (last edit: 6/16/2010 10:14:45 PM)
show user profile  Nik Clark
I read this a while back. I'm not sure the American public would go for it!





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6/16/2010 5:29:35 PM (last edit: 6/16/2010 5:29:35 PM)
show user profile  Dave
This is all just a ploy, the Russians will pull a "whoopsie" and fire that Nuke somewhere else instead, then it's war time!

"I flew over Egypt once"

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6/16/2010 5:35:07 PM (last edit: 6/16/2010 5:35:07 PM)
show user profile  advance-software
It wouldn't be a Russian bomb, Dave, it'd be an American or British one.

Maybe we just have to wait for the relief well.

Guess that's Obama's decision.

No superman, no international rescue ... the real world sucks.

You'd think they'd have some kind of uber underwater bulldozer type thing they could use to push a load of rocks & sand over that thing ... one mile down ...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deepwater_Horizon_drilling_rig_explosion

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6/16/2010 5:39:56 PM (last edit: 6/16/2010 5:51:55 PM)
show user profile  npcph
i say we redirect the nuke to the BP executive offices so we can get someone else to work on stopping the leak. then maybe we can get something done that will actually work. And besides, nuking it will only cause bigger problems.... haven't you seen the movie Godzilla?

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6/16/2010 5:54:06 PM (last edit: 6/16/2010 5:54:06 PM)
show user profile  advance-software
> had been used five times successfully, with only one failure in 1972

5/6 is a pretty good success rate.

Wonder what happened to the other one.

It makes sense - explosion pushes down on surrounding rock, closing drilling channel ... or fails to (try again) ... or blows the top off the oil field, dramatically increasing the polution. The radiation itself would probably have a negligible environmental effect in the grand scheme of things.

Edit : oil pressure: 30,000 psi , apparently.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100529174827AAbe9hy

Unverified source.

More stats for the interested : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Mexico


Bunch of maps & stuff that I don't understand here :

http://egsc.usgs.gov/isb/pubs/booklets/usgsmaps/usgsmaps.html#Geologic%20Maps

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6/16/2010 5:56:43 PM (last edit: 6/16/2010 7:27:19 PM)
show user profile  Error404
shoot man, Louisiana is my home state :-( I really should be following this disaster more close!

But from what I've read and been told, It doesn't seem like there really is a "good solution", or heck not even really much of ANY solution. That's quite saddening :-( Us humans, we sure are good at f*cking things up :-D

www.DanielBuck.net - www.DNSFail.com

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6/17/2010 6:21:23 AM (last edit: 6/17/2010 6:21:23 AM)
show user profile  Poopsmith
5/6 is a pretty good success rate
For flipping a coin yes, shooting hoops yes, almost anything yes,

nukes? NO! lol Honestly I don't care either way, just thought I'd point that out.
3d 2d digital artist special effects poopsmith

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6/17/2010 7:06:08 AM (last edit: 6/17/2010 7:06:08 AM)
show user profile  advance-software
There are five possible solutions that I've read about.

1. Drill relief well into main well channel on an angle, then pump a load of stuff into it to block both it & the main channel. Not quite sure what the stuff is they can pump in that blocks 30,000 psi.

2. Nuke it to close the drilling channel. This solution has apparently worked for the Russians 5 times.

3. Put a load of really heavy stuff over the top to cap it. Practical ?

4. Attempt to close off valve on the underwater well head and/or route output to surface - this sounds like what they've been trying to do, maybe it'll work.

5. Leave it - there's only so much oil there - the pressure will drop eventually. Huge waste & massive environmental damage. :(

5/6 is a good success rate even for nukes. If it's only a small one, hopefully the oilfield "roof" won't collapse. If it's not big enough to close the drilling channell, try again with a bigger one. Worst case, you end up with option 5 which is what's happening right now anyway.

This is one of those evil vs. slightly less evil decisions with a bit of risk & gamble thrown in.


My 2c.


Sounds like they're having some success with 4.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/us_and_canada/10337146.stm

BP chief executive Tony Hayward appears before US Congress committee today from 15:00 BST (10:00 EST).


Could they drop a large inverted funnel type thing over the area, weigh down the edges with rocks/sand, pegs, etc, then connect a pipe to the top of the funnel to channel the oil to the surface ? Maybe that's what they are doing.
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6/17/2010 8:58:28 AM (last edit: 6/17/2010 1:30:22 PM)
show user profile  advance-software
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6/17/2010 4:54:26 PM (last edit: 6/17/2010 4:54:36 PM)
show user profile  soontekk
yes why not, it will do quite fast what we are doing quite slow anyway.
it would allow us to end this 'rather silly' chapter and move on (in the biblical sense :)
damn those human braindead single-celled imbecils

melting ur brainz!
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6/17/2010 5:25:35 PM (last edit: 6/17/2010 5:25:35 PM)
show user profile  Nik Clark
AS, they have been doing what you suggest. The problem is that it's so cold at that depth that Ice forms in the top of the funnel and blocks it and makes it float.




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6/17/2010 5:30:19 PM (last edit: 6/17/2010 5:30:19 PM)
show user profile  Nik Clark
This is how amazingly deep they have drilled for this rig.






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6/17/2010 5:33:27 PM (last edit: 6/17/2010 5:33:27 PM)
show user profile  advance-software
Amazing graphic - thanks for posting.
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6/17/2010 5:39:16 PM (last edit: 6/17/2010 5:39:16 PM)
show user profile  soontekk
thats insane, nice find nik :o

melting ur brainz!
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6/17/2010 6:41:45 PM (last edit: 6/17/2010 6:41:45 PM)
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