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Symptoms of CPU overheating?
show user profile  LionDebt
I've been experiencing very strange crashes for about a month now.

Sometimes things will just start to 'hang': I can open a new tab but no website will load. I can close applications. I can't open new applications. The stuff I have running works. Eventually I'll have closed everything. Task manager will sometimes (maybe 50% of the time) show that Windows Explorer has become unresponsive. If I close the process, I can't use the command line prompt to start Explorer again, or get into MSDos. (Edit:) Forgot to mention, but going to Start>Shutdown or Start>Restart does nothing if my computer is in this state. I'll have to hold the power button to switch it off (/Edit).

Occasionally I will get a total crash - happens more often when I have a video fullscreen'd on one monitor while running a resource heavy program (on my other monitor). It is not a BSoD, rather, everything gets garbled / warped (I have a photo of it, because, can't screenshot dead computer will edit with the photo later).

Maybe 1 in 10 crashes produces a dump file and BSoDs in the normal, typical manner. I'm uploading that dump file to the Seven Forums guys (had really good results from there before).

As far as I know, I am totally virus/malware free.

I've run both mdsched.exe and MemTest and nothing is fucky with my ram sticks. This is usually the first thing I check when getting 'random' crashes. And, well, it's the easiest to fix. Take out the dodgy stick, slap a fresh one in. Hey presto.

I use Speccy (by Piriform) because it has temperature readouts for all components. No idea how accurate it is. My CPU starts at ~30 or so but quickly goes to 70 when I'm computering really hard. This has always been the case.

Is there a more accurate thermometer software?

How can I keep the temps lower? Does thermal paste need to be replaced? Pretty sure my fans are all spinning correctly (and high quality, good airflow / high RPM, silent etc).
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3/20/2016 10:58:07 PM (last edit: 3/20/2016 10:59:14 PM)
show user profile  gogodr
1) 70 is not that bad of a temp when on full load but you can look into liquid cooling solutions or high performance fan powered cpu coolers
2) yes, you need to replace it usually every year (if you are a high end/enthusiast user)

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3/20/2016 11:18:16 PM (last edit: 3/20/2016 11:18:37 PM)
show user profile  Nik Clark
70° C isn't that high for a CPU. I don't think the CPU temp is your problem, unless something isn't reporting the temp properly.

I use "Core Temp" to monitor my CPU, and it seems to get the temps right, as it takes them from the Motherboard/BIOS.

Can you tell if your CPU is throttling when you suspect the temp to be high?

I have a broken bracked on my cooler, and it slips off sometimes. I can tell when this is happening because the computer slows down. Core Temp will show that the CPU is stepping down the speed to keep the temps under control (assuming you have a semi-recent Intel chip).

To me, this sounds like you are experiencing an intermittent hardware problem, which can be really hard to work out.

Can you try another PSU? PSUs will degrade over time, and low voltage can cause a whole array of different problems and errors, and Windows can't see this happening in any error report.

My thoughts on water cooling seem to disagree with others. Modern coolers can do a perfect job, silently unless you are doing crazy overclocking, and make less noise.


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3/21/2016 1:18:14 AM (last edit: 3/21/2016 1:19:19 AM)
show user profile  S. Silard
I had temperature issues too, than I bought a new cooler.
Coller Master's Hyper 212 EVO works grate with AMD FX 8350.
100% load, 8 Core 4.34 GHz and it's 60 Celsius, in 20 C room temperature.

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3/21/2016 1:58:06 AM (last edit: 3/21/2016 1:58:06 AM)
show user profile  9krausec
I blew out a CPU in college. It was heating my room during the winter (lived in somewhat of a frat house and the heater was broke for the duration of the winter). I had the only warmish room in the house :)

Forgot to down clock when it turned summer and left it chunking over a weekend. Came back and half of my CPU was blown. Didn't think half being blown was possible, but it is. Quickest 400 dollars I lost ever.

If you are experiencing crashes/BSOD under load you very well could have a damaged CPU...




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3/21/2016 5:43:58 PM (last edit: 3/21/2016 5:43:58 PM)
show user profile  LionDebt
Hmm. Been trying to reproduce it today.

Happens most often (like I initially though) when full screening a video / netflix / VLC on Monitor 2, whilst having a resource intensive app (fullscreen game / max / zbrush / potatoshop) open on the other screen.

I'm monitoring Performance in the Task Manager and CPU / Memory load isn't wild. And temperature doesn't steadily climb (core temp reads out at 63 to 68 max).

Everything in my PC is <2 years old. Except the PSU which is going on 3/4 years now. It's a 650w Corsair job.

Maybe replace that then see?


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3/21/2016 9:22:39 PM (last edit: 3/21/2016 9:22:39 PM)
show user profile  9krausec
I'd try a CPU stress test. I'm not computer pro, but if your computer can't take the load of a stress test and it does an insta-crash, then I'd say CPU is the culprit... Although if you have another PSU laying around give it a whirl too. (one could also say that the extra power draw of a CPU stress may induce a fuck-up in the PSU too...)

Just spit balling here though. Sure there are better people on this forum you should be listening to other than your old pal Clayton.




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3/21/2016 9:38:17 PM (last edit: 3/21/2016 9:38:51 PM)
show user profile  LionDebt
Well, okay this is odd. I've ran CoreTemp and holy shit if I try and multitask ANYTHING my CPU temp shoots up to 99 celcius. That's scary.

No idea how long this has been going on for - CPU seems to still work, maybe the random crashes have been a good thing...

Ordered some bad ass fan with direct contact heat pipes and heat sink nonsense... Shiiiiet - thanks for everyones replies. Guess I'll play minesweeper until the fan arrives.
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3/21/2016 9:48:55 PM (last edit: 3/21/2016 9:48:55 PM)
show user profile  Nik Clark
It sounds like your cooler isn't making proper contact. I hope the new cooler fixes that.




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3/21/2016 10:14:10 PM (last edit: 3/21/2016 10:14:10 PM)
show user profile  LionDebt
Sneaked into the bios and cranked everything right down. Put it into 'Eco' mode also.

Temp is stabilizing at around 40 and maxing out at 75.

Haven't dared try anything too intensive on it.

Scythe Shuriken Rev.B arrives tomorrow or the day after. I'm a sucker for fancy names.

note to self: Never ignore a random crash and think "I'll sort it out later". That's what idiots do.
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3/21/2016 11:17:25 PM (last edit: 3/21/2016 11:18:30 PM)
show user profile  Nik Clark
I'm a bit of an idiot...

My CPU cooler is so heavy (I had to choose the silent option) that it has snapped all the mounting bracket points on my motherboard.

So, my CPU and cooler are held in place by the side of the PC case. I have two packs of tissues on top of the cooler, when the door to the case is pressed down and screwed on, it holds the cooler in place on top of the CPU.

One day I'll upgrade and replace it, but it's worked for the last year. Not ideal, but it works.

This is my cooler:
http://www.scan.co.uk/products/arctic-freezer-11i-silent-cpu-cooler-with-92mm-rpm-pwm-fan-for-intel-115x-2011-cpu-up-to-150-watts

It is very heavy, but it's silent.


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3/21/2016 11:36:09 PM (last edit: 3/21/2016 11:37:22 PM)
show user profile  LionDebt
ha!

My SSD drive is wedged into the hole where the floppy drive used to live. I didn't think to order a bay adapter to convert one of the bigger slots into something that would accommodate it. Should really have ordered one just now along with the thermal paste and cooler... But, hey ho.

Aye, now you've got me panicking my cooler is gonna be too heavy... But I can't find a weight listed for your one... Can always put my case on it's side though hehe
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3/22/2016 12:15:12 AM (last edit: 3/22/2016 12:15:12 AM)
show user profile  S. Silard
The hell Nik, how heavy is it? How much it weights?

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3/22/2016 12:16:45 AM (last edit: 3/22/2016 12:16:45 AM)
show user profile  LionDebt
Well my new cooler (fan + heatsink) arrived today. I specifically picked this model because they said it can be, and I quote: "easily installed to an existing computer. Removal of motherboard/or other components not required".

Bunch of lying tossers! The little pins (which click into the motherboard) are UNDERNEATH the heatsink and fan. So unless I have tiny midget hands and x-ray fucking vision, it's near impossible to install.

Spent about an hour, most of which was swearing, but finally got it seated nicely. And what did I forget? The goddamn thermal paste!

I like to think I taught my dog some new vocabulary at the very least.

Oh yeah, and my temperatures are now 21. All 21. Sometimes 23. So, that's better at least :)
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3/24/2016 1:00:00 AM (last edit: 3/24/2016 1:00:00 AM)
show user profile  LionDebt
Hmm. Still randomly crashing. Albeit a lot less.

Any possibility (probably highly likely) that I've been cooking my CPU for the last couple months and it's not working 100% properly? Causing a random glitchy crash?
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3/26/2016 11:36:18 PM (last edit: 3/26/2016 11:36:18 PM)
 
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