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Steve Jobs has passed on.
show user profile  Pil
"Life changing is when you change people's life for the good without exploiting it."

That rules out iApples then.

In 1993 Apple released their new wonder to the world running at 16 mhz costiing 1390 USD.

Exploting people?

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10/7/2011 2:59:11 PM (last edit: 10/7/2011 3:03:15 PM)
show user profile  Pil
The proud owner couldn't even afford a desk so he had to put his new life changer on the floor :-)

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10/7/2011 3:04:34 PM (last edit: 10/7/2011 3:04:34 PM)
show user profile  Kajico
All of your arguments are invalidated because you can't go one sentence without pulling a retarded i* parody.

I think you're missing the point that I was making. I'm not saying that viewers of Finding Nemo had their life changed, I am saying that the people who worked on it did. I am a huge fan of Lasseter, but Lasseter himself is able to give credit where credit is due.

>"Steve Jobs was an extraordinary visionary, our very dear friend, and the guiding light of the Pixar family," said Lasseter and Catmull in a public statement upon news of Jobs' passing.

Also 1500 USD for a computer in 1993 is incredibly cheap. My top of the line IBM Aptiva 233 mhz processor was 2 grand when I bought it in 1996/97.

EDIT: Great interview with Lasseter and Jobs before Jobs went back to Apple

(\/) (°,,,°) (\/) Woop woop woop!

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10/7/2011 3:12:24 PM (last edit: 10/7/2011 3:34:54 PM)
show user profile  STRAT
you need to loose some of that apple hating angst mate. let it go and dont let it upset your life.


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10/7/2011 3:35:53 PM (last edit: 10/7/2011 3:35:53 PM)
show user profile  Pil
Im sure you can see the difference in a 16 mhz and a 233 mhz computer.

You got 14 times the power for only 700 usd ekstra only 3 years later.
At that rate the iPad should be sold for 20 USD today....

...but I guess you know this is not the case.

Instead of saying that Jobs changes Pixars life when he bought it is dumbing down the fact the Lucas were willing to sell it in the first place.

You cannot ignore the fact the Lucas's ILM did some ground breaking work as well as Pixar did.
Without Jobs....

I dont hate Apple. I even have an iPhone and have owned the macintosh I posted.
I have tough students to make and record music on mac hardware.

My point is that its hardly life chaning :-)

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10/7/2011 3:37:05 PM (last edit: 10/7/2011 3:39:08 PM)
show user profile  Kajico
You do know that Jobs didn't control Apple during the time you're bitching about the price hike?

My point is that your perspective of life changing doesn't fit everyone else's. Especially because it didn't impact you.

(\/) (°,,,°) (\/) Woop woop woop!

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10/7/2011 3:59:57 PM (last edit: 10/7/2011 3:59:57 PM)
show user profile  Pil
Yes, I do know that Jobs weren't in control of Apple in 1993.
But you also know that the price issue has always been a part of Apple no matter who run it.
Jobs didnt exactly fix that when he got back did he?

I simply find it sad that people find something as trivial as an iProduct life changing.

I find it hard to see how a man can be called a visionary by stealing ideas that are already publicly available, putting an i in front and re-release it for twice the price.
I simple find this sad as well....

But I respect that you disagree!

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10/7/2011 4:15:08 PM (last edit: 10/7/2011 4:15:08 PM)
show user profile  Kajico
>I find it hard to see how a man can be called a visionary by stealing ideas that are already publicly available, putting an i in front and re-release it for twice the price.

Welcome to marketing. Nothing is truly new. Nothing is truly original. It's what you do with those ideas that set you above the rest that get you ahead in life.

(\/) (°,,,°) (\/) Woop woop woop!

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10/7/2011 6:22:25 PM (last edit: 10/7/2011 6:22:25 PM)
show user profile  Nik Clark
Steve was one of the people who pioneered bringing computers into the home. While he didn't design any of the modern Apple stuff himself, he was obviously key in the choices made. His company has touched millions of people. I think he's definitely had an effect on all our lives in one way or another.

However, he is also the one that stopped all charitable, and philanthropic spending at Apple. If that's good or bad, I am not the one to judge, as he was obviously a shrewd businessman who got great results.

All in all, he totally deserves his place in history.

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10/7/2011 7:05:53 PM (last edit: 10/7/2011 7:05:53 PM)
show user profile  toldaddy
His involvement in the technology world has had a huge impact on my life and changed the way I do things, and especially changed the way I approach projects. I just don't understand why that offends. I don't even know why I feel compelled to justify the thought. *shrug* I think I'm done here.

The "macs are more expensive" argument really comes back to the perception of value. Example: Would you pay $1 more to buy cereal in a box instead of a bag? People do. It's all perception. Your perception seems to be that any added value apple provides is of no little worth. Some people find value in it. There is no reason to find it sad that people are willing to pay for what they perceive as quality - people do it every day with everything they buy.

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10/7/2011 7:06:52 PM (last edit: 10/7/2011 7:11:37 PM)
show user profile  Nik Clark
""macs are more expensive"

Nobody is forced to buy one. I've never understood why the increased cost has bothered people. There seems to be some human psyche thing that makes people want to enforce their choices on others.

I am not an Apple lover. I am ambivolent towards them I don't need one, but I think they are great devices. I'm not so keen on the locked-down-with-itunes thing, but it doesn't bother millions of people.

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10/7/2011 7:12:30 PM (last edit: 10/7/2011 7:12:30 PM)
show user profile  Pil
I also find the moral in The Emperor's new clothes sad.
It seem to fit very nicely with the business model behind Apple.

So be it.

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10/7/2011 7:25:39 PM (last edit: 10/7/2011 7:25:39 PM)
show user profile  Nik Clark
Pil, I agree with you. Don't get me wrong. I hate the blind fanboyism. Also, Apple's lawyers are asshats.

Though, I discovered that Samsung make quite a bit of Apple's hardware, which makes me wonder about all the recent lawsuits and sale prohibitions.

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10/7/2011 7:29:03 PM (last edit: 10/7/2011 7:29:03 PM)
show user profile  BishBashRoss
I would chip in but I think toldaddy hit the nail on the head.

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10/7/2011 8:01:56 PM (last edit: 10/7/2011 8:01:56 PM)
show user profile  killerbee2
I wonder what Bill Gates's tribute will sound like when he dies ...

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10/7/2011 9:56:33 PM (last edit: 10/7/2011 9:56:33 PM)
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