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anyone using Socket 1366 / i7 quads yet?
show user profile  Amish bob
I returned my 1 year old motherboard because of malfunction. So now I have to get a new one.
I'm thinking of paying a little more, and get a socket 1366 Mb.
it seems really cheap. A new motherboard, an i7-920 quad, and 4 more gigs of rams costs as much as my Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 processor cost by itself one year ago!
If I buy this, I'll have 12 gigabytes of ram :)

Anything I should know before ordering?

If anyone want's to buy the "Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6850 3.0GHz" let me know

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1/8/2009 5:33:34 PM (last edit: 1/8/2009 5:33:34 PM)
show user profile  Kajico
i don't think you can use your old ram with the i7s, you have to upgrade to DDR3

(\/) (°,,,°) (\/) Woop woop woop!

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1/8/2009 5:37:59 PM (last edit: 1/8/2009 5:37:59 PM)
show user profile  Sir_Manfred
Im running a Core i7 setup.
Make sure you buy memory that dont use higher voltage than 1.65 V
Anything more than that can damage the CPU.
Go for DDR3. I recommend the 1600 MHz ones.
Get a VelociRaptor 10.000 rpm disk or an SSD for system-drive. (Unless you already have one)
You'll need at least 750W PSU i think. Even more if you plan on SLI or Crossfire.

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1/8/2009 6:22:14 PM (last edit: 1/8/2009 6:22:14 PM)
show user profile  Phalse
I would do the upgrade.

Although i7 have 4 extra logical cores these cpus WILL NOT cut in half your render time compared to a single quad, they do give a performance increase.

That being said those cpus, their price cost for performance is the best at the moment.

Having a cheap single cpu machine that can compete with the skull would really benefit you for a couple years.

For example the skull boxes were rendering a v-ray scene at 1 minute on average with 8 physical cores, with a single i7 you will probably be around 1 minutes 20-40 seconds render time.

Shaving 10-20 seconds per minute off render time, when compared to a single quads render time.
The single Quad would be hitting around 2 minutes or more on that scene.

Having a lot of memory is nice if your doing particle simulation, cloth simulation or any other ram intensive calculation or extreme complicated scenes with high polys.

Overall I think that PC with the i7 is a great deal.
My opinion is go for it, now is the time to take advantage of i7 before true 8 physical core cpus are released.

Maybe intel will try this logical core technique with their 8 core physical cpus next year bringing a single cpu up to 8 physical and 8 logical cores!!!
(intels business plan on their site has them releasing a 6 physical core before the 8 physical)

I'm sorry everyone, I think your GPU offload rendering is not going to happen.
CPUS are just gaining in speed too fast and their price is going too low for gpus to be used for rendering.
It just wont happen for another decade or so or some insane leap in gpu tech that is unforseen at the moment.

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1/8/2009 6:22:48 PM (last edit: 1/8/2009 6:31:30 PM)
show user profile  tuna
Dell are selling really cheap i7 based systems BTW. Check out their XPS studio range as I think they currently come in cheaper than a [low end] i7 self built computer. I could be wrong, but they are pretty cheap.
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1/8/2009 9:00:46 PM (last edit: 1/8/2009 9:00:46 PM)
show user profile  Stephen R.
Core i7 requires DDR3, and benefits greatly from triple channel ram, the good news is you can get 3x2gb triple channel ram sets for like $128.

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1/8/2009 10:22:21 PM (last edit: 1/8/2009 10:22:21 PM)
show user profile  Phalse
Holy crap thats a fast box!

Another reason to buy an i7 is because I live in the Pacific NW and Intel is one of the largest employers out here.

It's a little cheaper to live than California but harder to find high paying jobs, help support our economy by buying a PC now!!! haha
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1/9/2009 12:44:02 AM (last edit: 1/9/2009 12:44:02 AM)
show user profile  Amish bob
I allready have 8 gigs of ddr3 ram. It was the fact that it would not work with my old MB that made me return it. So I'll probably buy more of the same type (1333Mhz)
I saw on the corsair site that it runs on 1.6v.

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1/9/2009 6:58:02 AM (last edit: 1/9/2009 6:58:02 AM)
show user profile  Sir_Manfred
Go for it, Amish Boob!
You wont regret it.
Rendering is superfast with Core i7!
(At least compared to my old AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+)

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1/9/2009 7:54:25 AM (last edit: 1/9/2009 7:54:25 AM)
show user profile  nemo
>You'll need at least 750W PSU i think.

no, 380w should be fine

nemo out

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1/9/2009 9:12:31 AM (last edit: 1/9/2009 9:12:31 AM)
show user profile  Sir_Manfred
>no, 380w should be fine

That is way too low.
Do they even make them that low these days?
You would most likely experience power-shortage on certain parts of of the computer. Such as the USB-ports, harddrives and the Graphics Card.
Besides, you want to have more than enough so you don't have to get a new PSU next time you upgrade.

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1/9/2009 11:00:43 AM (last edit: 1/9/2009 11:00:43 AM)
show user profile  nemo
380w is not too low. i run an intel quad core system on a 380w psu myself.
the actual power consumption is actually somewher around 200w.
to say that you need a 750w psu for 200w power consumptoin is just plain wrong.
where do you get your information from?

total computer power consumption is coming down as (some) poeple slowly understand that those oversized psus were more of a marketing idea than a necessity.

if you are interested in the topic and want to see what you can do even with a 300w psu you can do some reading here:

nemo out

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1/9/2009 12:02:39 PM (last edit: 1/9/2009 12:02:39 PM)
show user profile  Sir_Manfred
Yeah 300w is fine... if you live back in 2003!
Quit livin' in the paast, maan! Contemporize!

With a 750w PSU for a heavy Core i7 setup you leave space for future upgrades such as more harddrives and/or an additional graphics card.
Besides, its always good to have some extra power left over even after an eventual upgrade since PSU's tend to get weaker with time. This is because of the capacitors getting older and thus provides less output.

Last time i had a 450w PSU was on an Intel Pentium 4, single-core, setup. And because of some upgrades, it didn't put out enough power to the USB-ports so none of my external harddrives could transfer files through it. The USB-port would just shut down. And this wasn't even a top of the line setup.

So if you want to avoid troubles, i suggest you don't get cheap with a weak PSU and instead go for something that will last.

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1/9/2009 4:02:10 PM (last edit: 1/9/2009 4:03:59 PM)
show user profile  Kajico
You should never cut back on your PSU, don't know why so many people feel like they should. Most current devices require a steady current to keep them stable and operating properly a lower wattage PSU will not distribute enough voltage to all devices in a constant manner.

(\/) (°,,,°) (\/) Woop woop woop!

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1/9/2009 4:35:34 PM (last edit: 1/9/2009 4:36:09 PM)
show user profile  GluteusMaximus
A good quality PSU is far more important than a high wattage one.

In the past I've run a quad core system (Q6600 OC'd to 3ghz) with 2gfx cards (8800GTs), 4hdds (2x 200g and 2x 320g) and 2 optical drives on a 430w PSU before for around a year with no issues. The PSU was already half a year old before I got most of this stuff too.

I have recently swapped the 2 8800's for a single 9600gt (I don't play games very often anymore and my 9600 is fanless) and got rid of 2hdds and one optical drive into a server. But it has always run fine. Even with heaps of usb accessories, gfx tablet, tv tuner, keyboard with LCD screen, card reader, and a game controller.

I also had a friend running a notoriously high power P4 with 6hdds and 2dvd burners on a 400w PSU for years as well.

My PSU is an Antec, and his was a Thermaltake (I think) for the record.

You've been suckered if you believe that you actually need a crazy high power PSU. Just get a good brand one.
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1/9/2009 9:30:39 PM (last edit: 1/9/2009 9:30:39 PM)
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