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Should I consider vray.
show user profile  npcph
Got an opportunity to do some work for a builder doing some beauty renders for his clients. Its something that I have wanted to do for a while but haven’t had an in until now. My brother-in-law is building a house so I did a bunch of renders for him and the builder is really interested in being able to offer it to his other clients. I was doing everything on an older i5 laptop and mental ray. I figured I will need to get a faster system with a lot more resources and possibly Vray. I see a lot of renders done around here use Vray and they get amazing results. One of my questions is, how intuitive is Vray? I know there isn’t a “Make nice render” button but is it easier to set up then Mental Ray? Or is it similar and everyones renders look great just from them using it so much? One issue I have with mental ray, is doing grass can kill a render. How much different is it with Vray? Vray is pretty expensive and want to make sure it is the right option for me.

I also will be looking at a new computer. Right now, I can get a dell i7 for $899 and it seems like a decent system. I would switch out the hard drive for a SSD drive and add in a RAID with anther 2 gig drive. Any thoughts on it.

Dell XPS 8700 $899.00
Intel® Core i7-4790 Processor 3.6GHz
16GB Dual Channel DDR3 1600MHz RAM
4GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 745 Graphics
Microsoft® Windows 7 Professional (64-bit)

Any thought on the Vray or the computer?


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9/23/2015 4:32:51 PM (last edit: 9/23/2015 4:32:51 PM)
show user profile  3joez
Vray is now a standard in the Viz industry. It has almost everything. After years of working with it, I think it's the best non realtime engine. It has had camera-like render setups long before other engines have started considering them. Previous experience with photography helps a lot. Difficult? Like other engines, more or less. And internet is full of good tutorials.

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9/23/2015 4:51:05 PM (last edit: 9/23/2015 4:51:05 PM)
show user profile  roccodiablo
I've only used vray briefly so can't comment on that other than, of course, it is the industry standard for arch vis deffo.

However, if you're working alone then that doesn't matter so much.

I can't recommend Corona enough. I used Mental Ray before and made the switch about 18 months ago and haven't looked back. It doesn't have a make nice button, but you don't really have to mess with the default render settings so I personally spend more time improving on the scene than tweaking settings.

I've not done any exteriors with it yet, only interiors by the way.

Download it and give it a try, you'll pick it up in minutes I promise.
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9/23/2015 5:54:58 PM (last edit: 9/23/2015 5:54:58 PM)
show user profile  9krausec
Use what is most prominent in the industry unless you have a really good reason not to. Make yourself as marketable as possible if you need to get a job at a studio within a team.

If Vray is the tool of choice for your work (in the industry) and you have the cash to throw down for a license, I would get it.

That being said, I don't believe in trial by fire for client based work. Vray can be intimating and would not be something I would want to first start using/learning for a job with a deadline.

- Portfolio-

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9/23/2015 6:09:33 PM (last edit: 9/23/2015 6:09:33 PM)
show user profile  Bolteon
It's the fastest RS out there. By far.

-Marko Mandaric

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9/23/2015 6:39:12 PM (last edit: 9/23/2015 6:39:12 PM)
show user profile  npcph
Thanks for info guys. I am in the process of getting a new system, unfortunately, my current laptop is only 32 bit. That's why i haven't done the corona or vray trials. Hopefully, i can be up and running in the next few days on a computer so i can give each a try. From what the builder has told me, the level of clientele he has, this will be something that will be used on pretty much all of his jobs. So as long as i can produce something he likes, then i think i can look at a pretty steady flow of work. not sure if it will be a full time thing, or more of a part time job every week, but it will get me in the door so that opens other opportunities.

Can anyone tell me there thoughts on the computer setup I was looking at? I was going to build one, but i don't have the time to do it so i have to go off the shelf. The 4GB NVIDIA GeForce GTX 745 Graphics card seems like a decent mid range card and i would upgrade to 32 gig and a SSD drive right off the bat. I7 seems like the better way to go then AMD. any thoughts or other options that someone might suggest.


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9/23/2015 9:51:02 PM (last edit: 9/23/2015 9:51:02 PM)
show user profile  Coxy
Do it. Vray is awesome.

Unless you mistakenly add a VrayLight material to a line and then spend 6 hours tryng to work out why your lighting solution is super noisy, which I -totally- didn't do tonight..

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9/24/2015 4:08:19 AM (last edit: 9/24/2015 4:09:42 AM)
show user profile  Undersky
Unfortunately, Redshift takes a long time to get out of beta for 3ds Max. There are still some rather crucial stuff missing from the Max version (like material editor rendering), but when it becomes more feature complete, I'd say take a look at it.

It's a GPU renderer which is several times faster than V-Ray. I always render with motion blur these days, and often with dof. With V-Ray (and our rather limited render farm) that was impossible. I have barely touched V-Ray in 1.5 years now. Crazy fast stuff.

The only things missing from the Maya version for me is raymarching in volumetrics and Xgen support. But in the kind of work I mostly do, those are just bonuses.

If I weren't already hooked on Redshift and were to chose a renderer, I'd take a look at Octane, also a GPU renderer. Although there are people on the Redshift forum that comes from Octane and says Redshift is faster (it is biased after all, whereas Octane is unbiased), Octane seems to have a really nice workflow, and the Max version is more mature than Redshift right now.
Demo reel, 2010
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9/26/2015 12:27:57 AM (last edit: 9/26/2015 12:27:57 AM)
show user profile  digs
question: "Should I consider vray"
answer: "Render bucket's can follow your mouse around"
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9/26/2015 12:38:48 AM (last edit: 9/26/2015 12:38:48 AM)
show user profile  Bolteon
"It's a GPU renderer which is several times faster than V-Ray."

Than V-Ray CPU.... Not RT GPU.

-Marko Mandaric

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9/26/2015 8:20:54 PM (last edit: 9/26/2015 8:20:54 PM)
show user profile  STRAT
Your work is awesome enough. You must pick a tool you enjoy. Vray is a buzz word. But is it your buzzword. Personally, for me its a dream. But then, a talented artist can produce with any RS.


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9/26/2015 8:53:58 PM (last edit: 9/26/2015 8:53:58 PM)
show user profile  npcph
Thanks for the info everyone. I have been using mental ray, and have been getting some decent renders. But many times, it tends to be quirky and there are times where it just won't render. i see a lot of people use Vray which is why I was thinking about it. I am going to be upgrading to a new computer this week, so i think i will do a trial on several of the different renders. I am also going to try and render out a few of my current max drawings to see if Mental Ray will work any better on a better machine.

So i think i will give several renders a try.

Thanks for your help.

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9/28/2015 3:39:02 PM (last edit: 9/28/2015 3:39:02 PM)
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