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rendering in after effects
show user profile  stevey2shoes
long time no post
i wonder if anyone can help
I need to render a video in after effects and need it as higher quality as possible to then burn onto a dvd (via powerdirector).

i havent got a lot of experience with AE and have visions of going through each combination one by one which will take forever.
i need the DVD done by this Saturday (14/03/15).

it is made up of animation, video (most of which m2ts) and sound files and, so far, i have had trouble with the sound dropping out in large chunks for no reasion (which then reappear if i convert the rendered file to some other format.)
can anyone at least point me in the right direction pkease
thanks in advance
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3/9/2015 11:43:49 AM (last edit: 3/9/2015 11:43:49 AM)
show user profile  Lazmo67
Don't know if this helps but we always render to lossless AVI then encode in media encoder as we've had issues in the past rendering straight from AE.
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3/10/2015 12:34:27 PM (last edit: 3/10/2015 12:34:27 PM)
show user profile  chillywilson
2 things.
Ae to DVD not good
Avi from Ae even worse

Pipeline : AE render out a sequence. I like peg 2000
Put the Seq. Into something. Like premiere an put the sound to it.
Render that out as quicklime animation 100%
Send that to the DVD program aand encode that file dvd
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3/10/2015 7:47:38 PM (last edit: 3/10/2015 7:47:38 PM)
show user profile  Lazmo67

Curious. Why AVI from Ae even worse.

As a final format it sucks but media encoded seems to work ok. What issues do they cause?

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3/10/2015 9:26:42 PM (last edit: 3/10/2015 9:26:42 PM)
show user profile  killerbee2
you can import ae files directly into media encoder.
Use it to render to mpeg2 then go to dvd.

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3/10/2015 9:36:30 PM (last edit: 3/10/2015 9:36:30 PM)
show user profile  Pet®

2 things.
Ae to DVD very good. Done it many times, never had a problem. Even if you don't understand basics, choose the preset, render, use. Easy as that.

Avi from Ae, than encode in encoder..even better, no issues with it.
I mean uncompressed avi of course.

Your pipeline...could be worse, but hardly..
To jpeg 2000? Than to quicktime ..? Than to mpg2 dvd..? OMG.

Are you serious?
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3/10/2015 10:35:37 PM (last edit: 3/10/2015 10:39:49 PM)
show user profile  chillywilson
sorry was on Vacation.

AVI uncrompressed is huge and AE doesn't do it very well compared to other formats.
AVI also limits you windows only, unless someone has flip for mac, its a terrible compression all around.

The reason I say jpg2000 for sequencing, is if changes come down from the gods.
It's easier to burn out only the effected change than the entire video it's self( usually standard practice in most places).
Most programs like premiere can then update the changed sequence on the fly you can then go directly go out to DVD without any extra steps, but since I don't know what you're using, bounce out uncompressed out of xyz then to DVD is an extra step but a safe one to assume.
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3/12/2015 8:50:06 PM (last edit: 3/12/2015 8:51:22 PM)
show user profile  Pet®
OK, talking about an extra steps..

I still didn't get what is wrong with rendering directly from AE to mpg2 dvd..?
I use encore for authoring, and I've never had a problem with this pipeline. You can also export chapters, markers...

And I have been doing so for the last 10 years. Not weddings, but professional authoring. Paid ones.
Can anyone from yous saying AE is bad for this, give me one example what can/ went wrong?
So I can get prepared for anything.

Thank you

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3/12/2015 9:36:46 PM (last edit: 3/12/2015 9:36:46 PM)
show user profile  chillywilson
I'm not saying it will give terrible results but when asking for the top quality After effect rendering on the mpeg 2 format wont do 2 passes on the VBR only 1, also some of the bit-rate information is weak.

When going to encore, use it like your passing video to an editor. Use encore setting for the mpeg compression, you'll have to write your own settings for the best quality just save the preset.
It seems like and extra step to you but you can compare the setting to your own present and see that a slight quality bump in Encore

I know it feels like you should just import premiere and bounce out to DVD and call it a day but you will run into issues as projects grow.

--- For doing the best quality and Why this way:

" Say you have a client that needs XYZ, you give him a free change/EDIT but after that you have to charge him"

- By setting up a sequential rendering and edit you can save time and money with also keeping the best possible quality on hand.

Establishing the river:
" You say not weddings but paid" - So I'm thinking standard commercial work for this example

-1 Shot video/ AVCHD, RAW, PRORES
-2 Edit/ color
___If need to take for compositing send to AE

Here is where the split should happen
_3 Edits should be made for final and sound should cleaned

_4 Scenes that get sent for compositing should be sequenced back out and put back into the edit.
_5 Edit send to authoring

This way if a change comes down the pipe all you'll need to do is render a couple of frames.
If it's just a change from the edit then that's even easier.

If the edit is off the beaten path and you'll have to charge the client, then you'll sound better talking about the steps you have to take and why the

Because you're looping a system to any portion of the edit you can now get that change done quickly and effectively: (With in the mid day. )

Always make sure your projects can be formatted in one punch

The High quality Sequences then can be backed up for further uses like portfolio

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3/13/2015 2:33:34 AM (last edit: 3/13/2015 2:33:34 AM)
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