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Recommend a good free c++ learning source (basic stuff)
show user profile  horizon
Here is the situation I'm in.
We had 1 full year of C programming, it went really slow and we had a great professor, so I actually enjoyed it even though I can't see myself as a programmer in the future.
Last semester we had object oriented programmin, C++. New professor, who is awful, and I couldn't force myself to listen to his classes. His .pdf classes are a mess, lots of unneeded things, not systemized in any way....

Now, I know C syntax, and very little of C++ from the beggining. What we do in classes this days is also basic, things like header files , simple GUI's, classes, global/private variables, there was some dll files today.
What I now want is as painless getting up to speed as it can get, so I don't want to roam around looking for tutorials, so is there a resource on the web that has tutorials done like w3schools have for all the web tools, I really liked those.


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4/25/2008 8:29:21 AM (last edit: 4/25/2008 8:29:21 AM)
show user profile  spoon
I don't know C++ but ...

I think this is a topic you best tackle with books, instead of a tutorial here and there. Do some research on what book to buy so you don't spend time on crappy books. In my opinion, reading a good book from page to page and really doing all excercises, even if they seem very simple, is the very best way of learning things like this. I've had the opportunity to follow some very expensive ( 5000€ for 5 days ) and highly specialised courses, and i still think your best friend is that 50€ book.


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4/25/2008 8:58:00 AM (last edit: 4/25/2008 8:58:00 AM)
show user profile  Setherial
Bruce Eckel is the man, he writes really good books (I read his thinking in Java Book, top notch stuff and a lot of schools and universities suggest reading it)

he has a book Thinking in C++ as well

download it for free athttp://www.mindview.net/Books

His java book was a very good way for starting out with OO programming, I guess the C++ book will be the same.


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4/25/2008 9:01:58 AM (last edit: 4/25/2008 9:03:41 AM)
show user profile  tincan3d
do you need some kind of software/compiler application to program in C or C++? What about learning VB first? I never did any kind of programming except some basic commands back in highschool (like 80s)

Do you write a program in a notepad or in command or how does it work. once you're done do you save whatever you did in an exe file? how does this process work?
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4/25/2008 1:02:19 PM (last edit: 4/25/2008 1:02:19 PM)
show user profile  Setherial
You can write a program in notepad but I strongly advise against it, it's like writing html in notepad but worse.

Java isn't all that bad these days to start out with, all the software (compiler and such ) is free, you can use eclipse which is a free IDE (=super notepad on steroids) to write your code and a book like Thinking in Java by Bruce (see above) is free and the best possible way to get into coding, the man is awesome.

C++ is fuck hard to learn and unless you really need it like for writing high performance games it's just not of this day and age anymore. And basic is well.... basic :) it's not the way to go. Basic.NET is the first mature Basic language out there but I'm afraid lots of books are still aimed at basic programmers (=teach it all wrong)
C# is a perfect alternative to java but it's Microsoft which comes with a shitload of downsides.

_edit_

I'm not saying what I said out of ignorance, I used C++ for more then 5 years of which 1 year as a professional coder and I've used C#, Basic, Basic.NET and Java throughout the last 10 years all on a professional basis
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4/25/2008 1:33:05 PM (last edit: 4/25/2008 1:36:15 PM)
show user profile  horizon
@spoon and Seth
Thing is, I don't want to carry on with the programming, I just don't see myself with it, not my thing. I just need to get up to date with classes for the test, and the test is pretty basic, books generaly have wider scope of things (which would be good if I really wanted to go that route). A friend has this book:http://free-zg.htnet.hr/jsribar/en/index.html
Seems like a great book, but I really don't need that much info. That and I wouldn't want to spend any money on it as the semestre ends in 2 months.

@tincan
I have MS Visual Studio 2005 I got from my college for free on MSDNAA program.
The text itself can be written in anything, but it's not all one file like html, so there is no point when you have 10 linked files, a C++ project makes it much easier

So anyway, I would prefer a tut like "classes are yadda yadda, they are used for this and this, here is the syntax." Then I look up the college excercises which are the VS projects, and see what happens. Rather than 30 pages of text about them that will teach me a great deal, but I don't really need it.

MDB recommended one site for it, so I'm gonna try that, any other idea is welcome



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4/25/2008 4:34:02 PM (last edit: 4/25/2008 4:34:02 PM)
show user profile  Setherial
get a oreilly "in a nutshell" book, I'm sure they'll have one on C++. It's what you are after, basic, straight forward, just the facts no bullshit. It's very good as a reference.
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4/26/2008 1:14:56 PM (last edit: 4/26/2008 1:14:56 PM)
show user profile  Kajico
2nding O'reilly series and I also want a voice an opinion. If you learn C and get a good understanding of it you can pretty much grasp most other languages.

I have always been against learning Java and VB as your first language.


(\/) (°,,,°) (\/) Woop woop woop!




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4/26/2008 3:21:55 PM (last edit: 4/26/2008 3:21:55 PM)
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