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Photoshop Painting Threat. Michael
show user profile  MichaelRokk

Decided to start a face study, because i have some months free time now.

Comments & Critism & Paint Overs are welcome

First One ;p

p.s. going to paint in black and white from now.. color is way to difficult in the beginning
My art blog, check it out

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6/18/2010 11:24:45 AM (last edit: 6/18/2010 11:41:34 AM)
show user profile  Dave
Ooh, threatening.

"I flew over Egypt once"

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6/18/2010 12:08:39 PM (last edit: 6/18/2010 12:09:01 PM)
show user profile  MichaelRokk

My art blog, check it out

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6/18/2010 7:02:00 PM (last edit: 6/21/2010 12:21:22 PM)
show user profile  Paunescudanutz
i like the eyes on the first one, keep practicing, and if you find the secret of painting cool hair let me know, coz i fail there too.


<---~( Daniel )~--->

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6/18/2010 7:15:31 PM (last edit: 6/18/2010 7:15:53 PM)
show user profile  MichaelRokk

just wanted to draw a fast politician of the netherlands.
Really hate him though.

didnt want to use any really lines..
My art blog, check it out

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6/21/2010 12:17:01 PM (last edit: 6/21/2010 12:22:54 PM)
show user profile  Setherial
put down 5 greyscale values, white and black at each extreme and 3 tones in between of which your page color is the middle tone. This is your palette.
Stick to that palette (color pick from it), turn opcity to 100% and turn of pressure sensitive opacity (if you're using a pen).

Try it like that, it's good practise. Once you can paint a portrait like that turn opacity linked to pen pressure back on. Also, use a hard edged brush.

PS: you are using photoshop right?
PS2: about the portrait in color in the first post, don't ever use pure greys or black in a color painting.

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6/21/2010 1:32:59 PM (last edit: 6/21/2010 1:57:19 PM)
show user profile  Bobbyboy
Great advice seth, might even give it a go myself :)

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6/21/2010 3:52:00 PM (last edit: 6/21/2010 3:52:00 PM)
show user profile  MichaelRokk
Tried to follow your advice setherial.
This is not finished yet just wanted to ask if this is what you mean.
No smoothing
5 colors.
Hard brushes.

My art blog, check it out

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6/24/2010 11:01:08 AM (last edit: 6/24/2010 11:05:39 AM)
show user profile  mrgrotey
I think one of the main problems with your current technique is that you are outlining everything in a cartoon way, nothing in real life is outlined. See with this last one, you've outlined the ears, the eyes, the lips. With the first one: eyes, jawline, lips.

Take these paintings by seth

its the tones that define the edges not dark lines. Leave that to comic book artists.

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6/24/2010 11:21:09 AM (last edit: 6/24/2010 11:21:33 AM)
show user profile  Setherial
yes and no. first of it's best to find yourself/or shoot a ref with a lot of cast shadow. A portrait photo shot under a spotlight.

The idea is to capture as much of the form of the face as possible by just placing the exact shape of the cast shadows in one tone (your second darkest value). You won't be able to paint form shadows using an opaque color, you'll have to crosshatch to create a softer transition.
You'll also have to crosshatch light into it.
A pallete of only 5 colors is to limited without some sort of blending, crosshatching is one way to create transitions.

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6/24/2010 11:26:58 AM (last edit: 6/24/2010 11:26:58 AM)
show user profile  graphix72
About the outlines, I think it depends on which style you prefer. I don't think there's anything wrong with outlines, but if you're going for a more realistic painting, make sure you get rid of them or soften them in the later stages of your work.
I think outlines are fine to establish "envelopes" - the general shape of the geometry. It's one method to get your proportions right in the beginning. And in Photoshop it's so easy to get rid of them later.

P.S. - About the hair (which you should not worry about at this point), there are great Photoshop tutorials on how to do realistic hair. But at this point, you should focus on the shape of the face and its features. You'll need some practice.

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6/24/2010 11:33:43 AM (last edit: 6/24/2010 6:21:33 PM)
show user profile  MichaelRokk
at grotey, your right, i do like it just wanted to try something what setherial said.
i like to smooth things out.. / not using outlines..
( like in my thirth painting, tried not to use outlines )
anyways i dont know if i want to go for realistic or something else,
Hope il find that out some day.

I kinda missunderstood the exercize of seth so after finishing this portrait, i will give it another try

@ seth, you have an example of one of your works where you did it?

My art blog, check it out

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6/24/2010 3:54:36 PM (last edit: 6/24/2010 3:56:11 PM)
show user profile  Setherial
the exersize is about contrast. your first paintings are lacking that. Once you blocked in your full contrast spectrum you can soften the transitions anyway you like for a more finished look.
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6/24/2010 4:05:56 PM (last edit: 6/24/2010 4:05:56 PM)
show user profile  Setherial
here I quickly painted you this example. I did use opacity linked to pressure but the focus is using a limited palette and just putting down value.

I snatched the photo of flickr

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6/24/2010 6:43:11 PM (last edit: 6/24/2010 6:43:11 PM)
show user profile  MichaelRokk
Tried to give a bit more depth at my last drawing

anyways will practice a bit more, bought some charcoal to draw with just to practice ;p
My art blog, check it out

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6/25/2010 4:28:08 PM (last edit: 6/25/2010 4:28:08 PM)
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