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Photoshop painting
show user profile  3joez
Hi guys,
I need help to make this painting more appealing and to improve my skills. What do you think?

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7/8/2012 11:45:11 AM (last edit: 7/8/2012 11:45:11 AM)
show user profile  herfst1
Very good. Maybe add some pink to the sky as the whole pic is a bit monotone. Try also adding more detail / sharper lines to that snow arc on the left hand side as it is closest to the screen. The mountains in the distance would also be a lighter, bluer colour.
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7/8/2012 11:53:24 AM (last edit: 7/8/2012 11:53:24 AM)
show user profile  Black Mariah
Agreed with herfst1 on the mountains. As it stands they look like they're just over the rise when given the size and shape they should be further out. Distance haze... look it up, learn it, wear it out.

I think it was Socrates who said... "I drank what?"

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7/8/2012 3:48:18 PM (last edit: 7/8/2012 3:48:18 PM)
show user profile  LionDebt
Gotta agree, it's far too monochromatic:

The pillar closest should be almost crystal clear in sharpness, and the mountains in the back should be more faded and have a blueish tint to them. Should also define where the light is coming from more, it seems like the ice-arch-pillar is casting a shadow, but, nothing else is. Looks good though :)
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7/8/2012 5:22:35 PM (last edit: 7/8/2012 5:24:35 PM)
show user profile  dragopede
The snowmobile isn't throwing out any wake in the snow. Also, he hasn't left any tracks.
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7/8/2012 5:53:01 PM (last edit: 7/8/2012 5:53:01 PM)
show user profile  horizon
Am I the only one seeing both of those things on the snowmobile?

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7/8/2012 5:59:32 PM (last edit: 7/8/2012 5:59:32 PM)
show user profile  herfst1
:) ^^^

Adjust the brightness settings of your monitor dragonpede.

On an unrelated note, I'd put a driver on the snowmobile, it looks kind of strange just driving around by itself.
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7/8/2012 6:07:07 PM (last edit: 7/8/2012 6:14:38 PM)
show user profile  dragopede
Aw, and here I thought I was all special for finding something obvious that people hadn't noticed. *sigh*...

Monitor settings adjusted. Thank you.
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7/8/2012 7:13:30 PM (last edit: 7/8/2012 7:13:30 PM)
show user profile  LionDebt
Looks a bit like Santa driving the snowmobile...

For me it kinda kills the whole 'landscape' vibe it has going for it.
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7/8/2012 8:10:54 PM (last edit: 7/8/2012 8:10:54 PM)
show user profile  3joez
Thx for all replies. Atmospheric distortion, yes I know. Now it's more. Lighting is better, I think. And Liondebt, I kinda agree with you. I'm creatively stuck, now and I feel something in the composition isn't right but at the same time in a good point to obtain good results. Let me know.

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7/8/2012 10:23:07 PM (last edit: 7/8/2012 10:23:07 PM)
show user profile  herfst1
It's 100 times better. The 3 things sticking out now are the tree, the snowmobile and that volcano in the background. First the volcano, I think it distracts. As for the snowmobile and the tree, they're really nicely painted but almost feel like they belong in another scene because of how much detail they have, like they're painted with a fine brush and the rest is painted with a larger brush.

Hope you don't mind but I had a quick once-over in PS to see if I was not leading you astray. I also added thunder clouds in the top left and a snow blizzard all over to add atmosphere. I don't think these additions are necessary but I think it would be a good idea to think of a story and make the painting tell it. For example my story was, "Shit, I'm stuck in a snow storm and I'm going to fucking die."

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7/8/2012 11:01:58 PM (last edit: 7/8/2012 11:01:58 PM)
show user profile  moid1111
the colors of snow mobile like personalized , special order mobile
generally i think you ll not find more than 2 essential colors,metal color of the sliders "black , silver",
that color other parts also and
another color as artistic print,"regular products"
,more colors means crazy,
and if it must be added "the third or forth colors...." it must be small ,

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7/9/2012 3:04:32 AM (last edit: 7/9/2012 3:08:44 AM)
show user profile  3joez
Thx Herfst! I don't want to look it too blurred, though I must admit I like your paintover. I changed the weights of black and white areas, I think now it looks quite balanced. I mean, I don't want a snow storm, I want him to travel in a neutral or good weather. He has just escaped from something terrible, in fact.

@moid1111: the snowmobile actually came from a photo.

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7/9/2012 9:01:43 AM (last edit: 7/9/2012 9:01:43 AM)
show user profile  Setherial
It still fells like a cut and paste job where nothing seems to fit dude. (not trying to be disrespectful, I'm always happy to see people expanding their skill sets by doing some painting here in 3d land)

general painting tip: try to stay away from using black and grays. Grays are good to make colors pop but these grays should never be fully desaturated. It's actually much easier mixing paints traditionally then on the pc. If you mix a palette from a limited number of colors all colors in your painting will feel related, there's a balance. With the digital color picker selecting harmonious colors is way harder.

I'm a total noob at landscape painting myself, I have no investment in landscape painting, no experience what so ever other then a healthy interest in the subject, a love for nature and an artists eye that studies that world 24/7. The way I would tacle your little adventure here is to start doing thumbnail images. Just the general mood of the environment, the sense of depth for starters and the sense of scale. If it looks good on a wee image yoyu can scale it up and start adding detail.

Cut the guy and the huge grasslike growth behind him until you get everything else to look realistic. Both elements totally destroy any hope of saving this picture. Paint the guy in as a blob of color once you get the environment right. Same for the plant. Their sharpness is really unrealistic. The cartoon look doesn't fit the 3d feel of the rest of the painting and there is no color bouncing going on whatsoever. How can a red and blue object crossing through the snow not have some coloring effect on its surroundings.

PS: your first post looked better then the last one, A LOT better
PS2: check out the works of Joachim Barrum, he does real nice digital environments, I remember several of them being snowscapes

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7/9/2012 11:26:21 AM (last edit: 7/9/2012 11:33:20 AM)
show user profile  3joez
I must say that I don't want to be photoreal.
I want to sketch something and communicate a mood. Moreover, I'm now battled between people saying different things. However, here I go again. I tried to adjust values, now it's better, because I have more dynamics in colors.
The snowmobile doesn't seem to fit, so now I must think of something else.

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7/9/2012 2:20:23 PM (last edit: 7/9/2012 2:31:55 PM)
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