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Need help for new computer
show user profile  Jock
It feels like my heads set to burst when all i'm after is a new computer, so many decisions to make, especially when i dont know the first thing about computers.

So my first decision was to buy a Boxx, so a good spec, reliable and all the other cons with going with a decent company. Though £3,200 for the cheapest and £4k+ for the most expensive quote.

Then mates started badgering me telling me i was stupid and i could build a top computer for a fraction of the price. So after some gentle persuasion i had pretty much decided to go along this route with a really good spec, for more than £1,000 cheaper than the cheapest Boxx quote. Took me a while to come round as the idea of building a comp from scratch with all the expensive parts sounded like a nightmare, having never done anything like it before.

So just as im about to get things ordered, then someone responded to one of my threads saying i was mad again, and all i needed was a mac pro with 8 cores.

Which route should i be going down, as i dont have a clue and getting more and more lost as time goes on.
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4/1/2008 5:14:55 AM (last edit: 4/1/2008 5:14:55 AM)
show user profile  Dave
So what you're saying, is everything was moving along nicely until someone shouted out "get a mac!" ?

"I flew over Egypt once"

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4/1/2008 5:30:55 AM (last edit: 4/1/2008 5:30:55 AM)
show user profile  MONOLITH02
I really don't know why some people stand by Macs so strongly. I use a Mac at work and PC at home, and personally I don't think the Mac is any better than the PC. They both have pros and cons but in my mind there is no clear winner. If money is no object, save yourself the effort and get either a pre-built Mac or a boxx. However for the best bang for buck just build your own. While on the point of building your own, honestly I don't think they are that hard to build. Most components come with an instruction Manual on how to set up (unless you buy OEM components i.e. just the part itself, nothing else).

Macs are stupidly expensive to upgrade as well. Never buy upgrades from the apple store. You will get shagged on the price. For instance, get a Mac Pro with the least amount of RAM and HDD, then just buy addtional RAM and HDD's from a third party retailer.

If you go down the PC building route, to make the experience less painful, just make sure you have another computer that has an internet connection within easy reach incase you get stuck. There is loads of help online. At the end of the day, your just screwing a few things together and slotting things in different places.


"The only thing worse than failure is the regret at having never tried."

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4/1/2008 5:52:39 AM (last edit: 4/1/2008 5:52:39 AM)
show user profile  Jock
Yeah thats what a few folk have mentioned and the idea is i would keep the current computer up and running to get help on msn if needed.
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4/1/2008 5:53:05 AM (last edit: 4/1/2008 5:54:46 AM)
show user profile  soontekk
first off, anyone suggesting to buy an 8core mac pro when u want to save a bck is a knob, ignore him

you are on the right track building your own machine to have more quality and cheaper invoice
and what if i told you that, after building your first ever workstation life becomes easier :D

get a decent quadcore
asus mainboard
nvidia 9800gx2
4-8gb fast ram
vista64
150gb raptor and 750gb datadrive
good psu
bluray drive
and foremost (very important) get the antec p180 series case

thank me later :)


melting ur brainz!
/ FOS4 / FO2 / Blurb / Twitter / Facebook / Vimeo /


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4/1/2008 6:54:01 AM (last edit: 4/1/2008 6:54:37 AM)
show user profile  MONOLITH02
I would personally amend soontekk's list by getting rid of the bluray drive. You pay a high premium for it, and unless you are authoring to bluray, its completely pointless at this point in time. You could use the money saved on that and put it towards a workstation GFX card, i.e. Quadro FX.


"The only thing worse than failure is the regret at having never tried."

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4/1/2008 7:08:56 AM (last edit: 4/1/2008 7:08:56 AM)
show user profile  Jock
Ive priced up the MacPro and its coming out at the same price as the computer i was going to build.

Does that change much?
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4/1/2008 7:12:35 AM (last edit: 4/1/2008 7:12:35 AM)
show user profile  soontekk
i added the bluray for backup and hd output posibilities which are quite important but can be skipped ofcourse

a quadro would be a total loss of investment as there is no speedgain only better components and support (official nvidia statement). some geforce cards are even faster than their quadro counterparts, but that's all in my older thread
cheers
tkk

melting ur brainz!
/ FOS4 / FO2 / Blurb / Twitter / Facebook / Vimeo /


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4/1/2008 7:14:33 AM (last edit: 4/1/2008 7:14:33 AM)
show user profile  Jock
This is the one i was going to build:

Intel D5400XS "Skulltrail" Intel 5400 eATX (Socket 771) PCI-Express FBDIMM DDR2 Motherboard
Intel Xeon E5420 "LGA771 Harpertown" 2.50GHz (1333fsb) 12mb-cache Processor - Retail (x2)
Samsung SpinPoint F1 750GB SATA-II 32MB Cache - OEM (HD753LJ) (x2)
8Gig 800mhz Ram
BFG GeForce 8800 GTS OC 512MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail
Thermaltake ToughPower 1000W Modular Power Supply
Sony NEC Optiarc AD-7200S 20x DVD±RW SATA Dual Layer ReWriter (Black) - OEM
Lian Li PC-A71B Aluminium Tower Case - Black
Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic 7.1 Sound Card - OEM (30SB046000000)
Microsoft Windows Vista Ultimate 64-Bit Edition DVD - OEM - 1Pk (66R-02034)
Logitech G51 5.1 Surround Sound Speaker System (980-000116)

Which will cost almost the exact same as a MacPro with 8800GTX and 8 gig ram. the ram i wouldnt get from Mac though.
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4/1/2008 7:15:09 AM (last edit: 4/1/2008 7:16:26 AM)
show user profile  Dave
Vkotek thinks:
"Just buy a new computer, problem solved"

Round of applause for that man.

"I flew over Egypt once"

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4/1/2008 3:03:42 PM (last edit: 4/1/2008 3:03:42 PM)
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