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|My i7 Build|
| Stephen R.
Nothing extravagent other than the hardware itself, I literally have this weekend to put it together, so needless to say its already close to finished. The only major bit left is to cut the top panel to make room for the radiator, and then the rest is little stuff.
12gb DDR3 PC15000 (1866mhz)
3x GTX 285 graphics cards
EVGA X58 SLI Motherboard
Water Cooled CPU
Scythe Fan Controller
Chieftec server case.
side note: In the full picture you can see of the inside, everything is connected, all the power to the motherboard, graphics cards, hard drives. rom drives, fan controller, and all front panel ports are plugged in (usb, firewire, and headphone/microphone jack), as well as the power/reset buttons for the case, and the power/hdd indicator LED's. I love wire management <3
Here's a picture of before I did any wire management:
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2/21/2009 3:42:38 AM (last edit: 2/21/2009 3:45:45 AM)
Nice looking setup....
What it going to be used for? Gaming I assume...
What's that lot cost you? I just did a rough up for UK prices and it came out at around £2500....not cheap...
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2/21/2009 4:24:32 AM (last edit: 2/21/2009 4:24:32 AM)
| Stephen R.
total cost of water cooling parts and hardware was ~$2900USD. Going to be used for high intensity 3D (lots of poly's on screen), and rendering, as well as gaming if I ever get a free moment. Hit 4.2ghz on stock air, hoping for the same on water but a lot more stable.
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2/21/2009 4:31:14 AM (last edit: 2/21/2009 4:31:14 AM)
Would you mind putting up a comphensive components list?
Looking at building something similar as a project and upgrade as my old AMD 6400+ is getting dated now....but, a little unsure about the water cooling side of things (never ventured that way before). What's the main components you've used for water cooling? Any recommended sites for reading up on it?
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2/21/2009 4:55:46 AM (last edit: 2/21/2009 4:55:46 AM)
I pray BSOD is not uppon you.
Good luck with this.... amazing piece of spaceshuttleworthycontroll system.
My Free Textures!
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2/21/2009 5:11:36 AM (last edit: 2/21/2009 5:11:36 AM)
| Stephen R.
best site on the web for reading up on water cooling, and a great lot to ask questons to: www.realredraider.com.
My parts list (these are semi low end)
Swiftech MCP355 pump (this is a rebadged DDC 3.2, so if you see DDC 3.2 mention, its this same pump)
The Feser Company 3x120 Radiator (I dont personally recommend these guys, I bought this to do a friend a favor, I suggest Hard Ware Labs, or Thermochill personally, although if you're on a budget the MCR320 from Swiftech is also a decent choice)
Aqua Computer Socket 1366 CPU Water Block (this is a great block from a good company, made in germany, kind of expensive (about $80), we havnt fully tested its spec's yet, if you want tried and true, go with the EK Supreme, its about $65)
Scythe S-Flex High-RPM Fans (sycthe makes good fans, but you cant beat the deal on yate loons over at www.petrastechshop.com. I usually use their Ultra Kaze 3,000rpm fans for my builds, but I was on a budget this time, so I stepped down to the S-Flex's, the difference being RPM and these are low static pressure (20mm) vs the Ultra Kaze's being high static pressure (38mm).)
I used cheap 3/8" tubing and put it over 1/2" barbs (boil the ends of the tubing for about 30 seconds, stretch with a pair of pliers, repeat, then stretch over fitting, once cooled it becomes water tight and permanent, this is a trick to get around using hose clamps to keep things looking clean). I recommend using Tygon tubing if you can afford it, any kind is fine, just make sure its the right size. Larger tubing can improve temps by about 2-3C, and a thicker side wall means it will take a tighter bend to make the side wall collapse (which is bad). Box standard atm is 1/2" ID and 3/4" OD, the largest available. I'm using generic 3/8" ID by 1/2" OD cuz it was only $3.90 for 10 feet of it lol.
If you are over seas like most of the people here, www.sidewindercomputers.com is a great shop, gary is a good guy to work with, and they ship international for fair prices. This is where I buy all my stuff.
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2/21/2009 5:30:51 AM (last edit: 2/21/2009 5:32:20 AM)
sexy graphics card, does it help with the rendering now? I read somewhere that was coming in. Although with the I7 you might not need it, and why a 3x? is that double bridged, jezz I cant keep up with the hardware....
" Difficult, yes. Impossible , no..."
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2/21/2009 6:11:56 AM (last edit: 2/21/2009 6:11:56 AM)
made in germany, haha
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2/21/2009 6:13:58 AM (last edit: 2/21/2009 6:13:58 AM)
Tri sli doesnt help with polys on the screen.
SLI doesnt even give any significant fps boosts or gains unless your resolution is above 1280x1024 19inch lcd
and the higher your resolution the greater sli/crossfire boosts fps % when compared to a single gpu at the same resolution
1 gpu at 1024 res playing crysis average 35fps
2 gpu sli at 1024 playing crysis average 40 fps
3 gpu sli at 1024 playing crysis average 45 fps
1 gpu at 1600 res playing crysis average 22 fps
2 gpu sli at 1600 playing crysis average 34 fps
3 gpu sli at 1600 playing crysis average 45 fps
The low resolutions give little to no gain for sli, high resolutions give a larger gain but you will never double your fps with sli.
Please check the benchmarks for crysis fps and sli with multiple resolutions if you dont believe me or think this is inaccurate. Crossfire/sli has been around for a long long time now and is well documented.
If you have 3 gpus you will not get x3 the fps. I doubt you would even see a actual double in your fps even having 3 gpus.
Multi monitor set up *crossfire ati* will take better advantage of multiple gpus.
ATI crossfire has a better scaling of multi gpus than nvidia and multi monitor support with crossfire.
Nvidia has better actual drivers and settings.
GPU rendering is not being added.
That CPU is not stable at 4.2, nor 4.0 lol
it blue screens
2900 US could buy Two skull intel PC's.
ONE skull out renders the i7 *check the other thread with the benchmarks done by maxers*
i7 doesnt give the speeds of Two X 4 physical cores.
*oh SURE BUT YOU CAN OC IT TO 4.0 ghz and render away!*
Why spend so much on a PC with 4 physical+ 4 extra logical cores when you can have one with 8 physical and more power for less cost.
i7 = too high priced right now.
Nice gimick to generate pc sales though, good job intel.
I like the OC sites about about benchmarks to 4.0 ghz.
Then we have lame people spreading this information to people in the 3D community like its a good idea to render at this level of OC.
They rave and rant about how it OC's this high but yet they say things like
"water will give it better stability"
I wish you would just stop talking about how high you OC your chip but then say its not stable.
Too bad you didnt have 5 posts about a resonable stable air OC instead of... OC bragging i guess....lol
Why don't you tell us the correct range for this chip when rendering which is under 3.4ghz on air.
We know you CAN oc a chip until it burns out.
We know your PC blue screens all day.
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2/21/2009 6:31:57 AM (last edit: 2/21/2009 6:53:33 AM)
you obviously like building pcs and i guess it serves that purpose well, it really is a nicely crafted pc.
on the other hand i dont get it how people are willing to spend that much money on a gaming pc.
sorry for the rant
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2/21/2009 7:11:15 AM (last edit: 2/21/2009 7:11:15 AM)
hahha your rant is puny compared to my uber elongated rant.
well in all fairness the power of i7 is pretty good for rendering. For a single gpu even being close to the speed of a skull is impressive.
It is a powerful multi purpose pc.
Yeah the cost is just a few 100 too high(i7 cpu/ram/mb) for me to buy one.
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2/21/2009 7:29:39 AM (last edit: 2/21/2009 7:37:16 AM)
Anandtech.com has a suggested i7 entry-level computer that I'm seriously considering purchasing.
The components are something like $1100 with these specs:
Processor Intel Core i7 920 Socket 1366 (2.66GHz Quad-core, 4x256KB L2, 8MB L3 Cache)
Video MSI R4870-T2D1G Radeon HD 4870 1GB
Memory Patriot Viper 3GB (3x1GB) DDR3-1333 (PC3-10666) PVT33G1333ELK - Retail
Power Supply OCZ StealthXStream OCZ700SXS 700W SLI Ready CrossFire Ready
What do y'all experts think? I'm primarily interested in getting into some arch-vis rendering rather than using for gaming, which is why I'm considering the i7. For comparison, they recommend a similar AMD system with 4GB of DDR2 ram and a quadcore processor for basically the same price. Does having an i7 and DDR3 make up for the extra GB of RAM?
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2/21/2009 10:55:57 AM (last edit: 2/21/2009 11:01:16 AM)
| Stephen R.
yes it does, and with I7 thats ram is triple channel as well. Do they say what motherboard they are using? Overall looks like a solid machine, and you could add a second 3gb set later on.
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2/21/2009 11:00:40 AM (last edit: 2/21/2009 11:00:40 AM)
/me goes to change underwear...
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2/21/2009 12:13:11 PM (last edit: 2/21/2009 12:13:11 PM)
well......that's it......i hate you
*wipes his drool of the keyboard
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2/21/2009 1:09:26 PM (last edit: 2/21/2009 1:10:33 PM)