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Looking to purchase a DSLR
show user profile  zeefusion
Hi guys,

I am looking for a DSLR (beginner) Mainly for taking some decent snaps on my travels and I would like to have a go at creating my own HDRI's. I see some cameras come with AEB for taking multiple exposures automatically and some cameras just have RAW and you adjust exposure manually in Post.

So my first question is what is the best method for creating HDRI's using AEB or adjusting RAW?

Secondly I don't know much about lenses, so I am looking for a starter kit really that has a lens that covers the above until I get more advanced to then look at other lenses. So a camera that also has a good supply of lenses to choose from, maybe even second hand.

I have narrowed it down to these, I would say my budget is around £500 if I can help it which I know in the camera world is not a lot but hopefully it will get me started.

Nikon D3300 that doesnt have AEBhttp://www.amazon.co.uk/Nikon-D3300-Digital-Camera-18-55mm/dp/B00HQCW7TM

Nikon D5300 that does have AEB but I dont know what makes it better than the D330 other than that for me?http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nikon-D5300-Digital-Camera-18-55mm/dp/B00FYJ5N1I

Pentax K-50 which is coming up in black Friday later today but again I don't think it has AEB but its weatherproof?? http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00DI74QMA/ref=gb1h_img_c-3_2147_d5defd99?pf_rd_m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=1PEFNW2AVW9TN62EG28X&pf_rd_i=161428031&pf_rd_p=560262147

And of course if anyone can recommend a better camera please do so :) I had a look at all the canons in the price range such as the 1200D, the 7D and 70D but they all seem to fall short against the Nikon D5300 or tie with the Nikon D3300 in the reviews but I could be missing a trick with the canons.

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11/27/2014 12:29:04 PM (last edit: 11/27/2014 12:41:11 PM)
show user profile  BishBashRoss
Are you going to be using the silver ball technique or do you want to get a wide/fisheye and a pano head. Budget wise I guess you're going to shoot a silver ball, therefore you want a fairly long lens as this allows you to get further away from the ball making the tripod and camera appear smaller in the shot.

Shooting RAW you don't need to adjust the exposure in post you just need to take less shots and let HDR shop work it's magic.

As for AEB (is this some sort of automatic tone mapping HDR thing?). I don't know what that is but I'm not sure you need it. You just need a camera that can bracket shots, I'm guessing most DSLRs in your range will allow this. ideally you want one that can bracket 5 or more RAWs at +- 2 EV. Some like mine only allow for 3 RAWs at +- 2EV, this can be a bit of a pain but not the end of the world.









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11/27/2014 1:13:06 PM (last edit: 11/27/2014 1:13:06 PM)
show user profile  zeefusion
Thanks for the tips, AEB is automatic exposure control. It quickly takes three shots at different exposures without having to manually change any settings between frames.

As I understand it, it means your shot is exactly the same each time without any risk of moving.
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11/27/2014 1:30:21 PM (last edit: 11/27/2014 1:30:21 PM)
show user profile  BishBashRoss
So it is. I just assumed all cameras had that in some form these days. You can use something like Trigger Trap to do that also. :)





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11/27/2014 1:37:21 PM (last edit: 11/27/2014 1:37:21 PM)
show user profile  soontekk
the AEB you mention is called HDR in most cams

i'd go for a decent system cam with a good sensor and RAW support, no dslr

i have a Canon 5D mark III, a 6D and a Samsung NX300 with a good wide lens and a 45mm 1.8 3D lens

the last one has wifi and some nice presets, is small / portable and costs a fraction of the canons.
i would recommend something like that over a dslr any day of the week

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11/27/2014 1:42:24 PM (last edit: 11/27/2014 1:42:24 PM)
show user profile  zeefusion
So in regards to the lens. The Pentax would be better with the 18-135mm compared to the Nikon which is only 18-55mm? Or does not not really matter for that type of lens?
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11/27/2014 1:49:11 PM (last edit: 11/27/2014 2:10:59 PM)
show user profile  soontekk
Not really about lenses these days.
All system cams have a decent set of lenses for all purposes, just saying there is no need to spend loads of $$ on a dslr anymore unless you are planning large sensor studio shots with the least possible noise or highend sports photography. All brands now have very decent system cams, like fuji, pentax, olympus,canon, nikon, sony & samsung...

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11/27/2014 2:46:13 PM (last edit: 11/27/2014 2:46:13 PM)
show user profile  zeefusion
OK cool, thanks for the info. One question I do have about lenses though. If a normal lens that comes with a camera is 18-55mm, is the 18mm the same as 18mm on a 12-24mm wide zoom lens? does it do the same job at 18mm? Or perhaps its 18mm but with much more in view?
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11/27/2014 3:54:58 PM (last edit: 11/27/2014 3:54:58 PM)
show user profile  BishBashRoss
Focal length can get a little confusing because they behave differently on crop and full frame cameras. 18 mm on a crop camera isn't as wide as it is on a full frame camera.





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11/27/2014 4:52:51 PM (last edit: 11/27/2014 4:52:51 PM)
show user profile  zeefusion
@soontekk, which is the better lens to come bundled with the Samsung NX300?
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Compact-System-Camera-20-50mm/dp/B00BV515FW

Or
http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/cameras/digital-cameras/compact-system-cameras/samsung-nx300-smart-compact-system-camera-with-18-55-mm-lens-adobe-photoshop-lightroom-4-white-21335910-pdt.html#cat-0

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11/27/2014 5:41:54 PM (last edit: 11/27/2014 5:41:54 PM)
show user profile  soontekk
I got the 18-55 with it, not bad but i don't use it, i got met 2 primes a 20mm and a 45mm.

I think i'd go for the 20-50 in your deals

And yes both canons i mentioned are full frames and the nx is a crop so you have to multiply focal lenght by 1.6 to compare. 18mm on cropped is hence 29mm

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11/28/2014 8:54:37 AM (last edit: 11/28/2014 8:54:37 AM)
show user profile  zeefusion
What is the advantage in getting the 20-50mm lens over the 18-55mm lens?

Just to set my mind at ease, how does the nx300 compare to the Sony a6000 do you know? Is the Sony worth the extra cost? Sony also has an a5100 but any review I read says the Samsung is better but not sure about the a6000.
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11/28/2014 10:03:42 AM (last edit: 11/28/2014 10:05:39 AM)
show user profile  ijzerman
Cant compare with the nx300 but im deeply impressed with the a6000 we've got at the office. Lots of options, apc size sensor, portable, lots of pixels. I can recommend that one fur sure. :)
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11/28/2014 10:33:07 AM (last edit: 11/28/2014 10:33:07 AM)
show user profile  zeefusion
As long as the camera is able to take files necessary for HDRI and is good for everyday snapping I will be happy. Whether or not I will notice a difference between the nx300 and the a6000 is what I am not sure about.
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11/28/2014 10:40:12 AM (last edit: 11/28/2014 10:40:12 AM)
show user profile  ijzerman
I can confirm the a6000 being perfectly usable for creating hdri. I used the a6000 in combination with a samyang 8mm fisheye from ebay for hrd shooting combined with PTGUI. I shot everything in raw and fully manual.
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11/28/2014 1:13:00 PM (last edit: 11/28/2014 1:13:00 PM)
 
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