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Learning touch typing?
show user profile  Garp
Currently I type rather slowly using just a few fingers. As I'm writing more and more code it might be a good idea to improve that.
There are many sites out there proposing free training but before picking one at random I was wondering if maybe there is a method well known to be more efficient than the rest.
Any idea?

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7/7/2012 11:01:17 AM (last edit: 7/7/2012 11:01:17 AM)
show user profile  advance-software
don't bother.

I don't touch type using any standard method but can type as fast as I need using 4 or 5 fingers.

you just pick it up & get faster as you need it. that said, if you want to learn the 'official way', nothing's stopping you.

regular touch typing doesn't include as much symbol use as we use anyway so not sure how much use it would be.

my 2c.
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7/7/2012 11:18:20 AM (last edit: 7/7/2012 11:18:20 AM)
show user profile  herfst1
Download "Typing of the Dead" (pretty old game, it's probably free by now) if you want to learn to touch type without getting bored. It's "House of the Dead" with the typing twist. There are also exercises for speed, accuracy, etc. I always thought it was just a game but it seriously forces you to look at the screen and not the keyboard.
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7/7/2012 11:55:59 AM (last edit: 7/7/2012 11:55:59 AM)
show user profile  Garp
AS: >don't bother
Well, I do bother.

herfst1: that sounds fun! I'll try to find it, thanks.

So? Does anyone know of a 'magic' leaning method?

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7/7/2012 12:42:38 PM (last edit: 7/7/2012 12:42:38 PM)
show user profile  advance-software
I can write code really fast.

I can write really fast code.

Which is more important ?

the magic method is called "more programmers".
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7/7/2012 12:55:01 PM (last edit: 7/7/2012 1:15:36 PM)
show user profile  Garp
Maybe I wasn't clear. If so, my bad.
First off, writing code fast and writing fast code are two absolutely unrelated things. I don't see how typing my code faster would make it run slower, as if it were one against the other.

As I see it, there are two ways of typing. One is by hitting the key with whatever finger happens to be handy (what I've been doing so far). The other is by being systematic, that is, using always the same finger for a specific key.
Millions of people over decades using the systematic approach have proved that it is the way to go if you want to be really fast. I won't pretend to be smarter.

So my question was not about whether I should learn it or not, that's my call (in fact, I've already started and my forearms really hurt). It was more about how I should learn and if anyone knew of a particular learning method that's more efficient.
Like you can improve your memory through brute force exercises or you can use mnemonic techniques and then improve a lot more a lot faster. People have developped tricks in a lot of areas to make the learning process itself more efficient.

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7/7/2012 1:34:58 PM (last edit: 7/7/2012 1:37:38 PM)
show user profile  herfst1
This might be beyond obvious:

Get used to putting your index fingers on "F" and "J" and always homing back to that (the keyboard has bumps on these keys to make life easier).

Invest in a wrist support, it will take most of the strain out of typing.

I went through quite a few typing courses when I was learning and most of them thought that typing variations of, "ASDF" and "JKL:" for the first set of exercises, and variations of "QWER" and "UIOP" for the second set of exercises was going to help you learn. Well, it doesn't. The fastest way to learn is to type actual sentences while refusing to look at the keyboard, no matter how many mistakes you make (even put a book or sheet over your hands if you find you have the urge to take a peek). That's why I recommend that "Typing of the Dead" game, if you look down, good chance you'll miss a zombie throwing an axe at you and you'll die. That was the program that got me over the hump.

P.S. It also grades you after each level on speed and accuracy and lists the keys you had the most trouble with.
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7/7/2012 2:03:51 PM (last edit: 7/7/2012 2:06:06 PM)
show user profile  S. Silard
I just make this reply , to check how much finger I use for typing . Left hand 5 , right hand just 2 fingers . Maybe because now I don't have to use the Hungarian letters .

Congrats, you found my signature.

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7/7/2012 2:07:35 PM (last edit: 7/7/2012 2:07:35 PM)
show user profile  advance-software
they are both elements of programming.

my point is code quality rather than speed of letters coming out of the end of your fingers is the key objective.

simply suggesting you do what's most important rather than go off on an unnecessary tangent.

you asked a question, I've given my answer. you're in no way obligated to agree.

the method well known to be more efficient than the rest is coding not fannying about.

... and on that note, I'm off to do some more coding :P

> I don't see how typing my code faster would make it run slower,

well, if you're blazing ahead, you're not taking the time to consider what you're doing. thinking over and again (often unconciously) whether it could be done in a more efficient way. you're not just typing, you're thinking. contrast that to a secretary who's just blasting through a dictation & doesn't need to think much, just type accurately.
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7/7/2012 2:08:02 PM (last edit: 7/7/2012 2:34:59 PM)
show user profile  Nik Clark
Insert a joke here about it taking ten years to type in the code for Infinity, so must be really good.

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7/7/2012 3:19:29 PM (last edit: 7/7/2012 3:19:29 PM)
show user profile  ScotlandDave
Well AS the opposite is also true - often the thought process is WAY ahead of what can be put down on paper so to speak - and that`s exactly where being able to type fast and efficiently without thought would be important to workflow.

[edit] We could argue about the colour blue around here :)

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7/7/2012 3:26:43 PM (last edit: 7/7/2012 3:28:32 PM)
show user profile  npcph
"Insert a joke here about it taking ten years to type in the code for Infinity, so must be really good."

that's why they call it INFINITY.


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7/7/2012 3:41:46 PM (last edit: 7/7/2012 3:43:12 PM)
show user profile  advance-software
blue is so yesterday. :P
get with purple.

suppose it depends where you are in a project - sure near the beginning you can rattle off class after class to throw something up fairly rapidly then at some point you end up with a fairly significant code base with the odd few little hidden nasties. routing out the wee beasties is the tricky part & can sometimes slow you right down.

especially when you have to debug on ancient equipment ...

still, just got another one, hopefully. /sets off another mozilla compile.
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7/7/2012 3:52:25 PM (last edit: 7/7/2012 3:52:56 PM)
show user profile  STRAT


When i was in school there were actually typing lessons on good old fashioned type writers (Nik will vouch for this), literally because computers and word processors weren't yet invented or made generally accessible.

generally, the girls did typing (for being a secretary), needle work and cooking. the lads did metal work and wood work.

i ended up doing a mix and match (you could opt for what you wanted), so i did typing and learned touch typing per course. i learned how to officially address and set out office letters and learn how to be a secretary. (i can bake a mean cake too, but not too hot on sewing socks).

trouble is, this isn't the case for peeps any more. boys or girls. if you want to learn typing or stuff you need to get off your ass and do it yourself.

Touch typing allows me to type, using all my fingers, whilst not looking at the screen.....but....i'm no more faster than a competent typer who uses 4 or 5 fingers only.

it makes life easier and less complicated for me personally, but as mentioned, im not better, faster or more efficient than a kid who's an ace with his 2 fingers.

we're all different. it depends on how good your are at fingering at the end of the day.


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7/7/2012 3:54:04 PM (last edit: 7/7/2012 3:56:08 PM)
show user profile  advance-software
that's what she said :D
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7/7/2012 3:56:45 PM (last edit: 7/7/2012 3:56:45 PM)
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