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How would you tackle a date. ?
show user profile  FX
I did this late last night, only took an hour...just working out the workflow aware all the time it could be done a lot better.

It's supposed to be a date, end result is to be more illustrative than actual, currently looks crap compared to a real date, although the end result will also be chocolate covered.

Material is blend using VrayFastSSS (which I haven't really studied, it's a tweaked preset) as a base and separate mats for the tops of the folds and white *dust* in the valleys.

any suggestions to what material approach to use, it looks too opaque,


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8/9/2015 11:06:09 AM (last edit: 8/9/2015 11:08:32 AM)
show user profile  Hugh G Rection
does look too opaque. match the lighting, so you can see how you're doing.

real ones in ref have speckly bits in the diffuse and don't have same surface diffuse colour all over - paint that in too.

currently looks like chocolate because you have same base diffuse all over.
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8/9/2015 11:24:05 AM (last edit: 8/9/2015 11:25:36 AM)
show user profile  herfst1
Definitely sss. You HAVE to check the dimensions of your model as sss depends on them being correct.

Make the subdermal layer a maroon colour and make an epidermal layer showing all the glitter and shit just under the skin. Then the rest is down to specular, can probably use a procedural dent map for that.

[edit] P.S. Hugh is AS (again), in case anyone says that [insert slander] is me (again).
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8/9/2015 11:24:55 AM (last edit: 8/9/2015 11:33:24 AM)
show user profile  BishBashRoss
I'd consider photogrametry for something like this and then work from there. Probably need some decent photography gear (macro lens, lights etc).

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8/9/2015 11:39:49 AM (last edit: 8/9/2015 11:39:49 AM)
show user profile  Hugh G Rection
they're not expensive. buy some real ones if you need this accurate.
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8/9/2015 11:47:15 AM (last edit: 8/9/2015 11:47:15 AM)
show user profile  FX
haha, AS again, yeah Ross I was thinking the very same at 4am this morning, Tesco's was shut, but I was dying to go out for a box of dates.

Downside is I only have a shitty 5mp camera on my phone :/, it needs to be cut in half at some stage so i was wanting a horizontal cross section macro of a date, seems everyone cuts them vertically.

@hersts, ahh right , did't have a clue about dimensions, cheers for the tips I'l play some more later today, I'm making chocolate in real flow too, what a bitch :)

I'll experiment some more...

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8/9/2015 11:50:34 AM (last edit: 8/9/2015 11:51:40 AM)
show user profile  Mr.Burns
Make sure to give her flowers and shit.
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8/9/2015 1:28:54 PM (last edit: 8/9/2015 1:28:54 PM)
show user profile  herfst1
Disagree. Don't bring flowers. Just tell her to meet you at a bar and get her tipsy (but don't ever buy her alcohol, she won't respect you for it). Then take her back to your place and the rest is obvious. #protips
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8/9/2015 1:32:26 PM (last edit: 8/9/2015 1:33:31 PM)
show user profile  Hugh G Rection
halfst - give it a rest mate.

flowers and shit is the way to go :D

maybe not the shit - that's halfst's hobby. 2 girls one cup or something. very odd.

so just the flowers.

maybe a bottle of wine. champagne even if you're feeling flush.

a nice meal. candles.

walk in the park. a fluffy kitten.

we know you got pro-tips m8 ;) thanks.

I got a shout out on british miltary radio yesterday :)

(couple of minutes into part 1)

ha !
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8/9/2015 2:23:07 PM (last edit: 8/9/2015 2:53:50 PM)
show user profile  FX
@herfst, you know in max when you have a texture loaded, and make edits in PS, max auto updates... does the same thing happen in zbrush ?

In zB I load a displace texture and as far as I can tell there's no way to refresh it, I have to reload it manually everytime I make an edit in PS.

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8/9/2015 5:11:13 PM (last edit: 8/9/2015 5:11:33 PM)
show user profile  ccampbell
@ BishBashRoss & FX

Why on earth would you use Photogrammetry fo this? Sooo overkill and you cant even use them in well in another setting either. Just model em, Lots of good advice ^ ..

The model as is looks good, the lighting sucks and the SSS material is too opac... and Hugh G's comments about the diffuse details are spot on. Take another 2hrs and just make these changes... done..

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8/9/2015 5:26:55 PM (last edit: 8/9/2015 5:27:54 PM)
show user profile  herfst1
@ FX, yeah, there's no auto update. You click on texture and import diffuse again. Then select the new diffuse texture so it appears in the slot, then go to the colour tab at the top menu and click fill. It's not a brilliant system but it's also not too much effort (takes about 5 seconds when you're used to it).

@ AS, sure send flowers, an expensive meal, and wait for the third date before you get a handjob if that's your style. My time is more important to me than to you clearly *cough* infinity *cough*, so I cut all that and if she doesn't put out the first night then I delete the number. Plenty of fish and all. Of course, you wouldn't really know about all that (based on your advice which you clearly got from watching romantic movies). This is 2015, not 1950, and it sucks as I wish the romantic meals still worked, but they don't. Just the way it is.

P.S. Just went out dancing tonight, got a free ride home and a courtesy blowjob before exiting the car. How was your night, hey?
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8/9/2015 7:09:10 PM (last edit: 8/9/2015 7:11:41 PM)
show user profile  Hugh G Rection
had a great evening and no STDs. thanks for asking.

we're all happy that you're happy :)

can we not do the obvious. it'll derail the thread.

to be clear. kitten on first date is probably overkill & walk in the park can wait until morning.
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8/9/2015 7:22:35 PM (last edit: 8/9/2015 7:26:36 PM)
show user profile  herfst1
Oh shit, didn't realise you can get std's from blowjobs!!?!?! I'll be rushing to my doctor first thing tomorrow morning. Thanks for the warning AS.
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8/9/2015 7:25:22 PM (last edit: 8/9/2015 7:25:22 PM)
show user profile  K-tonne

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8/9/2015 7:37:25 PM (last edit: 8/9/2015 7:37:25 PM)
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