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Helping the industry by changing convention...
show user profile  Bolteon
Last year, I built a system so that we could scale up computing power to render commercials when we needed to. The system was robust, secure and entirely on-demand.

8 months ago, I sat in front of Kahlie and talked about how if I could build it for us, I could find a way to democratize it with the same features and uses, but for everyone.

It's been a long, hard road but today we turn on something that will change the way we view many industries. We start with VFX, and who knows where we'll go...

P.S. A sincere thank you to this forum/home/community and of course Spoon, I've been a member here for a week and 14 years. Hard work always pays off but you have to pay respect to the places that helped you get there... This is without question, one of them. Cheers.

-Marko Mandaric

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6/24/2015 10:58:44 PM (last edit: 6/24/2015 10:59:30 PM)
show user profile  Sir_Manfred
That is fuckin' brilliant!
Well done, mate!

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6/24/2015 11:09:25 PM (last edit: 6/24/2015 11:09:25 PM)
show user profile  Bolteon
Thanks man, I'm going to go fuck off for the rest of the day with the fiance but I'll be back to talk and answer any questions anyone has...

By the way, didn't even know that cgpress did a thing on us back in April:

-Marko Mandaric

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6/24/2015 11:23:13 PM (last edit: 6/24/2015 11:23:13 PM)
show user profile  Nik Clark
I really hope this does as well as it deserves to. It's quite amazing to see in action.

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6/25/2015 12:01:51 AM (last edit: 6/25/2015 12:01:51 AM)
show user profile  Mr.Burns
Sorry for being ignorant, but what is the difference between this and a regular render farm?
I don't mean it in a "So what, this is nothing special!" kind of way, I genuinely don't quite understand because I haven't followed your project too closely (mostly because I don't use V-Ray), so I'd really like to know why everyone on here is so amazed :)
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6/25/2015 6:47:14 AM (last edit: 6/25/2015 6:47:14 AM)
show user profile  herfst1
Bolts can answer better, but from my understanding it's pretty similar, except you've got the power of render-farms in your own home, on demand. And "apparently" it'll be very competitively priced.

Which brings me to my question: how competitively priced?
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6/25/2015 7:11:27 AM (last edit: 6/25/2015 7:11:27 AM)
show user profile  mike_renouf
Edit: dammit Herfst. You type quick

I'm sure that bolts and others can give a definitive answer, but from seeing his video clip my understanding is this:
With a traditional render farm you submit your scene and specify the computing power you want the farm to throw at it. They quote you a ballpark figure and then you say "yep go do it".
Once the job is rendered, you get notification and a final cost. You then pay and can download your rendered images. The final price may differ from the original quote.
Bolts' system appears to give you hands-on access to the computing power so you can render stuff yourself with full user control.

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6/25/2015 7:14:19 AM (last edit: 6/25/2015 7:19:23 AM)
show user profile  ijzerman
Wow impressive stuff!

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6/25/2015 8:43:39 AM (last edit: 6/25/2015 8:43:39 AM)
show user profile  joelr

the only thing that seems at bit strange to me is that you are putting out there a very professional looking application, and you logo seems like something that a non-pro guy did in 15 minutes. it looks a bit cheep. (don't want to offend the designer)
forgive me if it seems that i am talking about things that are not important- but when i look for outsourcing a project to a company that i don't know anything about before hand, seeing this kind of thing might turn me off.
only saying it for your benefit.
other then that- of course this thing is amazing.....i will surely use it when in need

good luck, make a billion...


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6/25/2015 9:26:02 AM (last edit: 6/25/2015 9:26:02 AM)
show user profile  mike_renouf
I have to agree with joel. Once you get the time, it would be very wise to add a page with a fully narrated "how-to" video, and some layman-friendly descriptions of what the benefits of the service are over using a farm like Rebus for example.

There are artists out there who won't know the technical stuff, but they could become a big part of your market.

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6/25/2015 9:55:40 AM (last edit: 6/25/2015 9:55:40 AM)
show user profile  ccampbell
Grats - Crazy effort! Wish you best of luck.

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6/26/2015 5:00:32 AM (last edit: 6/26/2015 5:00:32 AM)
show user profile  Bolteon
Hey all,

Sorry for the delayed response, launching means only more work ahead... Hah.

We've gotten a lot of comments/questions/etc so we've put together this video:

Couple of other things:

Mr. Burns - It's just like a render farm, but on demand and just for you. And it wont be just for Vray, we're planning on supporting any software that benefits from having additional computational resources added to it.

Herfst1 - Pricing is on the website under "signup".

Joelr - It was done by a design company. Sorry you don't like it, we went through a lot of revisions on it before we chose that one.

Mike_renouf - We'll also be doing a walk through video for each type of software we support. Stay tuned.


We ran the numbers a couple days ago... If you load up the "Large" version of the service (20 worker machines) it's around (and possibly more than) 1 Terahertz of power you're getting on-demand. Hah.



Also, forgot to mention we're putting up the Stanford Dragon scene that we used during development as is (including HDR light bank) so people can test their speed (3DSMax 2014 w/ Vray 3.2).

We rendered an 8k image of it (also found below in the media package) in a little less than an hour.

Media Package:

Test Scene:

-Marko Mandaric

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6/27/2015 9:06:24 AM (last edit: 6/27/2015 9:17:36 AM)
show user profile  Gaiax

Firstly, congratulations. This is a fantastic product that deserves success for being a great asset to those who need the extra power.

Secondly, I never log in to comment but read occasionally. I've been a member here for years (possibly nearly the longest here?). I felt a need to comment here as I agree with Joelr and Mike_renouf because you appeared to have moved off from their comments a little too quick.

I'm a designer and don't often come across as polished a product with a design that suggests otherwise. To be blunt, if I didn't see this product previewed on these forums or know your work from here before I may have dismissed it quickly without checking it out because the design suggests someones skimped on quality and I worry, from experience of working in design and marketing, that others will make similar decisions quickly too.

There are plenty of professional design studios that make terrible design so I don't hold any significance in the fact a design studio did the work (this isn't a comment on the overall quality of the studio, I don't know their work).

I honestly have no other reason for signing in after all of this time other than really wanting your product to succeed and being confused about the presentation and how it will go down. I'm someone who believes that the largest cracks that topple a wall often started as the smallest chips. Best of luck with this, I think it'll do very well and I hope you listen to the comments chiming on the presentation. The backend and technology looks incredibly useful.
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6/27/2015 1:57:00 PM (last edit: 6/27/2015 1:57:00 PM)
show user profile  Octopuzzy
We've never seen eye to eye Bolt, but this is some really good stuff.
Nice work, and you have my respect.

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6/27/2015 8:10:06 PM (last edit: 6/27/2015 8:10:06 PM)
show user profile  Bolteon

I appreciate the input but the reason why I didn't really go in depth with their comments is because of the work that's gone into the logo.

It fits into the design language of "angular connection" that we wanted to portray with the marks. The c2c logo is a relative of the dot3 logo and carries with it the same leve of attention and detail. The design language of the site flows from both of these in simplicity and readability.

From a readability standpoint, the "carrot" and "3" mark are instantly recognizable from a distance and show well on print even in small size. The type set chosen (Luxuary Gold) has been slightly modified to meet the needs of contrast against the matching sans-serif type font we're using for paragraph text in the websites (my initial inclination was to use 3 fonts in total for everything but the serif'd font was too much a contrast to the other two sans-serifs, and having 2 sans-serif'd fonts made for a confusing page)

The most important part of design (in my not so humble opinion) is conveying a message.

To me, we've done that thanks to multiple weeks worth of time and effort spent on making marks that are both different and yet speak to the simplicity of the system we've built.

I've got an 8 page PDF about the old logo and what's wrong with it and what the initial logo for dot3 could look like.

If you want, feel free to draw up the same. Maybe you could win us over when we invariably decide to re-brand the whole thing (this will likely happen when we move forward with stage 2).


And to return the bluntness:

This service is by no means an "impulse buy". We charge a "cheap" but still significant amount of money to use it.

Anyone who sees the logo and second guesses our ability because of it is the type of customer we wouldn't be able to convince regardless.

The rest, by the time they've realized what this can do usually don't care what the logo looks like or even if there is one.

P.S. Thanks octo!

-Marko Mandaric

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6/27/2015 9:17:32 PM (last edit: 6/27/2015 9:19:27 PM)
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