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Graphics Card upgrade time (Stabby, lend me your brain?)
show user profile  LionDebt
Current setup:


Intel Core i5 2400 @3.40GHz
MSI Z68-G43 (MS-7750) Socket 0 - motherboard
8.00 GB Dual-Channel DD3 @ 665MHz
512MB GeForce GT240 (ZOTAC International)

Cooling is just a bunch of quiet fans blowing in and out of my tower case. Everything sits at around 30°C. Hard-drive is pretty basic, 250gb, but I have a couple 1TB external drives which hold important shit and backups thereof, USB3.0 is nice.

Pretty sure my power-supply is under no strain whatsoever. As I upgraded it when I got my i5.

So, the weak link in my metaphorical computer chain is clearly the graphics card... More memory would be nice, as would an SSD. But graphics card first...

Which of these would you get if you were in my shoes with £130 to spend.
http://www.ebuyer.com/621485-evga-gtx-750-ti-2gb-gddr5-dvi-hdmi-displayport-pci-e-graphics-card-02g-p4-3751-kr
http://www.ebuyer.com/623631-asus-gtx-750-ti-oc-2gb-gddr5-dual-dvi-hdmi-pci-e-graphics-gtx750ti-oc-2gd5
http://www.ebuyer.com/618540-msi-gtx-750-ti-gaming-2gb-gddr5-vga-dvi-hdmi-pci-e-graphics-n750-ti-tf-2gd5-oc
http://www.ebuyer.com/621486-evga-gtx-750-ti-superclocked-2gb-gddr5-dvi-hdmi-displayport-pci-e-graphics-02g-p4-3753-kr

Or is there something I should hold out for, or some vastly superior AMD card I should get instead? I've always had AMD but since I got this nVidia card (years ago), I was converted. Not entirely sure why.

Thanks in advance. I'm a lazy son of a gun and am working 60 hours/week just now, so can't really get my thoughts in order to properly research this as I normally would.

noob edit: Are there any specific brands which perform better than others?
eg: ZOTAC, Gigabyte, Micro-Star, Asus, EVGA etc?
Is the bang-for-your-buck difference between the 750, 760 and 770 series worth considering?

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8/27/2014 3:34:09 PM (last edit: 8/27/2014 3:38:48 PM)
show user profile  mr_pablo
If you want this card for a 3D workstation, look into a proper workstation card, not a gaming orientated card.



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8/27/2014 3:36:18 PM (last edit: 8/27/2014 3:36:18 PM)
show user profile  LionDebt
Yeah, not entirely sure. I predominantly develop in Unity, use zBrush/Max/Photoshop and of-course play games from time to time. I would like 60fps with at least some titles released in the last couple of years...

Had a brief look at this article:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-workstation-graphics-card,3493.html

Would my system suffer at all for opting for a Quadro or a FirePro instead of the above mentioned nVidia cards?
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8/27/2014 3:41:20 PM (last edit: 8/27/2014 3:41:20 PM)
show user profile  Dr. Jim
Waiting for Stabby....

Recent consensus seemed to be that gaming cards are as good or better than Quadro's and such (at a way less price point).....the only difference was supposedly the duty cycles of the workstation cards...etc.

Will await input from Stabby and other techies.....


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8/27/2014 4:00:55 PM (last edit: 8/27/2014 4:00:55 PM)
show user profile  kleutscher
To be honest those quadro cards arent worth the money for small developer.
They dont perform better then an geforce card in that price range.
You probably get more for your bucks in the geforce line then in the quadro cards line.

Correct me if i'm wrong.
Quadro cards are made by selected manufacters, no overclocking tricks on the hardware to reach the specs. A quadro card lifespan is longer.

While with geforce anyone can build those cards and use overclocking methods to get the card to a certain spec level so they can call it a 780gt etc.

kleutscher

But do you think I'll ever get a job at Pixar? That's one of my goals in life.

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8/27/2014 4:08:09 PM (last edit: 8/27/2014 4:10:20 PM)
show user profile  Sangre
As far as I know Quadros are built for longevity and some specific tasks in a specific software...
I'd say go for a gaming card. Some time a go Stabby suggested me to get AMD R9 270X card that still works well for me. The only problem I've had with the newest drivers that gave some artifacts in a State of Decay. Might be a little over your budget though...
Nvidia cards have driver issues at the moment. The newest demo driver ruined my GTX 560.
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8/27/2014 4:26:27 PM (last edit: 8/27/2014 4:33:53 PM)
show user profile  9krausec
I'm not too in the know about a lot of this stuff but it seems like Nvidia is on the forefront of badassery when it comes to 3D dev stuff. Same thing with Intel.

I personally would stay away from AMD (at least as far as the video cards are concerned).




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8/27/2014 4:26:56 PM (last edit: 8/27/2014 4:26:56 PM)
show user profile  Idiotforaliving
Unity runs mostly on a(consumer grade ) gpu so i would go for a gamecard with maximum vram, 3 gb or something.
Have you checked gpuboss.com? You can easily compare cards on various subjects.
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8/27/2014 4:30:37 PM (last edit: 8/27/2014 4:35:51 PM)
show user profile  Sir_Manfred
Go for one with 3 or 4 GiggityBytes of video memory instead.



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8/27/2014 4:59:48 PM (last edit: 8/27/2014 4:59:48 PM)
show user profile  digital3ds
wait for nvidia's 800 series, they should release in october. you will thank yourself

- Mike Sawicki




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8/27/2014 5:19:16 PM (last edit: 8/27/2014 5:22:08 PM)
show user profile  LionDebt
So, so far all I have learnt is:

a) Get more GB of video memory, forget everything else?
b) Wait for 800 series (how much will they cost?)
c) Quadro cards aren't the right way to go.
d) Stabby is afk and may possibly have overdosed on oatcakes.
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8/28/2014 3:59:10 AM (last edit: 8/28/2014 3:59:10 AM)
show user profile  Mr_Stabby
From what I've heard about the 800 series, theres nothing really revolutionary coming, surely there will be a little performance/price bump, say 10% or so.. you decide if thats worth the wait. 900 series has promised some fancy antics but its too early to tell whether they'll deliver or not. Pretty much the same goes for AMD, dull times!

Now for the quadro topic.. again. Yes, they last longer but do you really need to run your gpu 24/7 for 40 years? The expected lifespan of a mainstream card is ~5 years these days, considering you can buy 5+ mainstream cards for the price of one similarly performing pro card, you're still better off with a mainstream card even if it explodes the moment its warranty expires.

As for AMD vs Nvidia - If you're doing really high end setups with multiple gpus for 120fps gamings on 4k screens go with nvidia for sure, they are visually more "smooth" as of late. For things where smoothness isn't really an issue and where raw performance is important (like any kind of Max related activity), AMD still holds the performance/price crown.

As for different vendors - matters very little, 99% of the time you just want to get the cheapest version of x with y amount of memory. The only exception to this is when that cheapest card is significantly more noisier or has shitty regulation (and low oc ceiling).

Video memory is great to have when you need it but then again with the level of performance you'd expect from a card in that price range, it would only come in handy when doing gpu rendering.. yea thats literally the only situation I can think of. I'm a bit biased on this one since I'm rather disappointed with where the gpu renderers are in their development right now.

Now for specifics - at up to £130, you're looking at gtx 750 ti vs r7-265 and here the amd one wins out by far, not even a competition really. Mostly because nvidia has this giant gap in cards between £100 - £200 and because the amd one costs more. The nvidia card does overclock more and when OC'd they are a lot closer matched but I've never been a fan of OCing gpus since they tend to drop in that capability much quicker than cpus and before you know it, you end up fiddling with your OC all day every other week.

back to my oatcakes.

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8/28/2014 1:20:05 PM (last edit: 8/28/2014 1:32:13 PM)
show user profile  Sir_Manfred
AMD R9 295X



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8/28/2014 1:54:52 PM (last edit: 8/28/2014 1:54:52 PM)
show user profile  LionDebt
Manfred want to lend me £980 plz, thx.

So I've read a few reviews for the 750ti vs r7-265 and I'm quite pleasantly surprised. I won't be over-clocking or any jazz like that. So straight out the box, into my motherboard it's going to be the AMD.

http://www.ebuyer.com/630241-sapphire-r7-265-2gb-gddr5-dual-dvi-hdmi-displayport-pci-e-graphics-card-11232-00-20g

http://www.ebuyer.com/641092-xfx-r7-265-core-edition-2gb-ddr5-dual-dvi-hdmi-displayport-pci-e-r7-265a-cnf4

So it's between these two now. Only discernable difference I can see is GDDR5 vs DDR5.

Final noob question: My MSI Z68A-G43 has a PCI-ex16 slot? Just checked the MSI website and it says it does. So yeah, guess I answered that one for myself.

Thx for your help folks
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8/28/2014 4:12:09 PM (last edit: 8/28/2014 4:12:09 PM)
show user profile  Mr_Stabby
That ddr5 thing must be a typo since we're not at even ddr4 yet(and gddr5 is the graphics equivalent of ddr3).

Between those 2, since the performance is equal, I'd decide on noise level but since I cant find any review putting them side by side.. cheaper 4tw!

As for the motherboard - you'd be hard pressed to find any consumer motherboard without a 16x slot, only place you really see them these days is cheap end multi core servers.

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8/28/2014 5:22:56 PM (last edit: 8/28/2014 5:22:56 PM)
 
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