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Going from HD to SSHD. Advices?
show user profile  LionDebt
I'm looking to spend about £100 on a big, bad solid state drive.

Well, 3.5" ideally as that what my drive bay can take.

I'm gonna install Windows 7, Max, Potatoshop, Unity and zBrush on it.

Maybe use some space for screen recording (writing to disk only).

My other HD will be "just" data / files / projects etc.

I came across this:
SSHD? That's just them being sneaky ain't it. Ignore this one.

Okay - options.

The hybrids? They seem interesting. Wasn't aware they existed. Worth it? Size-wize they seem excessive (for my needs?) but one can never have enough space really...

I see the sandisk pulse (128gb)... For ~50 squid, what's stopping me just buying a couple of them? One for Windows one for other Apps? That'd be ~40 squid cheaper than buying 1 500gb corsair SSD...

Halp? Advize?

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5/27/2015 9:29:23 PM (last edit: 5/27/2015 9:29:23 PM)
show user profile  Nik Clark
I've got a Samsung SSD. I will never go back.

Not ever.

I use it as my main drive, and swap space. It really is worth every penny. No delays, apps open in seconds, working desktop in under 30 seconds from boot.

EDIT: I like a quiet PC. Pretty much the only noise now is one large slow fan. Even my graphic card is silent. I really don't miss the sound of an HDD.

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5/27/2015 9:33:43 PM (last edit: 5/27/2015 9:38:14 PM)
show user profile  LionDebt
Any scruples on them SSHD tings? I'm hearing a lot of reviews saying "omg boots up windows in 8 seconds". But not sure if I trust that.

Also, PartitionWizard has a "Migrate OS to SSD" button. It sure would be nice if that did what it says. Or would I be better of doing fresh installs of everything(max, zbrush, potatoshop, windows) onto the new drive?
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5/27/2015 10:26:09 PM (last edit: 5/27/2015 10:26:09 PM)
show user profile  Nik Clark
My Samsung drive came with a utility and USB->SDD connector to copy the existing HDD's contents to the new SDD. It worked fine, although you will get better performance doing a fresh install.

I don't know about PartitionWizard, I haven't used that for more than 15 years.

I think Windows 8 might resume the OS in 8 seconds. To be honest, I'm ok with 30 seconds, as it's much faster than any HDD.

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5/27/2015 11:25:28 PM (last edit: 5/27/2015 11:25:28 PM)
show user profile  LionDebt
512GB SSD it is then.

What about scratch disk? Or other temp storage (stuff I'm not realllly well versed in), is it viable to allocate SSD space to that?

My main hope is that Max, Unity, Photoshop and Windows will boot up super speedy.

I'm also hoping to screen record in HD and I've had a definite bottleneck trying to do that on my 5 year old 3000RPM hamster disk.
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5/27/2015 11:42:52 PM (last edit: 5/27/2015 11:42:52 PM)
show user profile  Nik Clark
Well, it used to be said that using it as a scratch disk would kill the SDD over time, which is probably true, but the newest ones have a great life expectancy. Mine is still showing that it's in full health after a year of using it as the only drive in my machine.

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5/28/2015 12:00:25 AM (last edit: 5/28/2015 12:00:25 AM)
show user profile  LionDebt
Okay next question:

My motherboard (MSI Z68A-G43) has 4 SATA 3Gb/s and 2 SATA 6Gb/s.

Okay, scrap that question. I saw some SSDs using PCI-Express lots.
Then I saw their max random/sequential read/write speeds.
Then I saw their prices. That's not an option!

Okay Ebuyer had a pretty sweet daily deal on. And I'd left stuff in my basket from 2011 by mistake so they sent me money off voucher emails to try and close the sale. Boom.


Got a new case fan, some thermal paste, some compressed air, a couple sticks of DDR3 memory, a 7 port USB desk dock, and a 2.5" to 3.5" bay frame converter... Oh yeah and the SSD. Shopping and drinkin'.

I'm just going to leave these delicious outmeal cookies here, incase stabby wants to chime in and make my neurons fire.

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5/28/2015 2:31:17 AM (last edit: 5/28/2015 2:34:34 AM)
show user profile  LionDebt

Migrate OS to SSD by partition wizard is fucking awesome.
Partition Wizard in general is fucking awesome.

Used to take 3 to 5 minutes to boot-up and get logged in to a responsive desktop.

Now? Maybe four seconds.. Five if I type my password wrong or a bit slowly.

I shit you not.

Can't wait to put Max and the other main programs onto the other partition. But I'm scared I'll have too much fun opening and closing everything repeatedly in awe and amazement to get any work done.

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5/30/2015 12:37:25 AM (last edit: 5/30/2015 12:37:41 AM)
show user profile  owtdor
I have heard that SSDs have a finite write capacity. In other words, they can only be written/overwritten a certain number of times before they "petrify". I have also heard that there are programs that move your data around over time in order to keep everything wearing evenly.

I have yet to verify this, but it sounds rather complicated and I am not entirely sure how it all works. If you are only writing occasionally, but reading a lot, I doubt it would be much of an issue.

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5/30/2015 12:54:59 AM (last edit: 5/30/2015 12:54:59 AM)
show user profile  Mr_Stabby

@LionDebt good choice, hybrid drives are IMO somewhat of a gimmick. They do work as expected but the SS cache on them is rather small and not very durable.

There are disk controller hardware, software only solutions and even some integrated on motherboards to do the exact same thing with the combination of any HDD + other quick storage, including RAM and are often more cost effective. Either way, a cache is still a cache, its limited and not consistent if the amount of data you're regularily using exceeds the cache size.

@owtdor that is done automatically by the SSD firmware these days. The bigger the drive the longer it lasts, I wouldn't worry about using a modern 500gb ssd as a scratch disk, will likely last longer than you'd use it for other reasons anyway (10+ years).

If it does degrade enough before you're ready to swap it out, it still works as a read-only disk. I do recommend regularly backing up SSD's though since if they go bad, recovery is rather expensive (as opposed to HDD).

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5/31/2015 12:54:48 AM (last edit: 5/31/2015 12:54:48 AM)
show user profile  LionDebt
Well, I just went for a 500gb one to begin with.

Needless to say I am sold on the technology. Shit's fast yo.

But yeah, I read a bit more about it. Damn you Mr_Stabby... I actually had to google some words then read a lot of other words to get knowledge. Be more active, please? I put oatmeal cookies out and everything.

As for backing up and extra storage I'm thinking of a WD Black 4TB but that'll come later. And hopefully with a TB SSD too, when it does ;)
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5/31/2015 2:10:39 AM (last edit: 5/31/2015 2:10:39 AM)
show user profile  ccampbell
Best advice you'll get all day - 2x SSD + Raid 0 = win

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6/2/2015 12:13:05 AM (last edit: 6/2/2015 12:13:24 AM)
show user profile  LionDebt
Dunno about best advice all day ccampbell. I got some pretty good mortgage advice this afternoon :)

2x SSD + Raid 0 is interesting. But only from a benchmarking point of view. My day to day desktop usage doesn't really need that.

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6/2/2015 1:12:59 AM (last edit: 6/2/2015 1:12:59 AM)
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