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Getting that great job(s)
show user profile  Duders
I was wondering if you guys had any tips for a 2nd year (of 3) computer animation student. I'm not dead set on what area I want to go into (and I'm sure I'll be taking whatever I can get) but I'm quite interested in CG in film (Big elephants in LOTR and that) or freelance because it sounds sexy.

I know one very important thing is to make 3d a hobby rather than just work and I'm already well into that (why else would I be on here at 3 in the morning.)

I've produced my first half decent model and have done a few very poor quick animations (15 seconds clips on showing weight and emotion in characters etc.). So I'm not ready to make and fill a website with work yet.

I'm also looking into competitions as I hear they are a great way to get your name and work around.

Obviously the best tip is to be a active member of the bestest 3d forum on the web.

(Apologise, apparently the brackets come out at night)

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2/7/2009 8:11:43 PM (last edit: 2/7/2009 8:15:38 PM)
show user profile  Phalse
I will help you out friend.

Two-Button Navy Stripe Wool/Cashmere Suit.
Get it tailored nice, ask for European tailor fit (Tight, slim fit) + an extra finger width at your local tailors. You don't want to wear a baggy loose suit now, no matter what tailors tell you is in.

If you already live in Europe you can find a nice expensive suit there :)

Congratulations, you got the job.
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2/7/2009 8:16:44 PM (last edit: 2/7/2009 8:25:35 PM)
show user profile  Duders
Blindingly helpful as always.

Anyone else?

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2/8/2009 9:31:01 AM (last edit: 2/8/2009 9:31:01 AM)
show user profile  K-tonne
someone else can see him too? i thought he a figment of my imagination all this time...

duders- i recommend you put your best stuff on a reel and blanket email every game company in your area- then go further afield if you need too- don't bother with agencies at the moment till you're ready to step up to the next rung in the ladder- after you've got your foot in the door that is- it's just not worth the agencies time to get their cut from junior's wages but you can look at where agencies advertise jobs and research the companies that are using them yourself- cut out the middle man so to speak
look at other's folios in the field you want to move into and emulate their stuff- not copy- just do things along those lines- it'll also give you some idea of the standard the industry is looking for and give you ideas for new projects/ practice
you'll be judged on your worst work so be critical of the stuff you send out or post it here for honest crits and pointers
good luck

[edit] that barbed wire on your jeep looks way too big to me

Website and Portfolio

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2/8/2009 9:58:08 AM (last edit: 2/8/2009 10:00:06 AM)
show user profile  Duders
Cheers for the advice. After this term we will have covered all the basic max techniques (we going into advanced lighting and texturing) and hopefully ill be able to put some finished pieces together. We also have a big group project and I'm gonna work my arse of to make it good.

Looked back at my jeep and yeh, the barbed wire would be an inch thick. shrunk it and added more.

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2/8/2009 10:45:36 AM (last edit: 2/8/2009 10:45:36 AM)
show user profile  Error404
right now is probably a difficult time for new artists to get their first job. Alot of seasoned artists are out looking for jobs too, as companies lay off people, or close their doors. You'll probably have to fight hard! Good luck! -

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2/8/2009 12:44:08 PM (last edit: 2/8/2009 12:44:15 PM)
show user profile  Duders
Yeh, I'm not looking for a job right now, was just thinking of starting to make myself a good... work... person. I figured get my self set and concentrate on what's important now rather than just going blindly threw Uni and just coming out with what they tell me to do (like the other 60 people on my course).

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2/8/2009 1:23:06 PM (last edit: 2/8/2009 1:23:06 PM)
show user profile  Phalse
Hehehe :)
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2/8/2009 6:53:42 PM (last edit: 2/8/2009 6:53:42 PM)
show user profile  parkerfamily
how interested in video games are you? the video game company
dice is forever hiring. their plan seems to be always hire, because sony and microsoft will pay like 15 million dollars if they'll put a team on making them an exclusive. so you might want to check them out, they're in europe. just go to game company websites and look for interesting jobs.

edit: their website is

edit2: also, use the words intern, low pay, and i'm still in school, and getting a job should be easy.
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2/8/2009 6:54:54 PM (last edit: 2/8/2009 9:45:58 PM)
show user profile  Phalse
if you worked there at dice, you would be the bomb.

Oh you do know listing proficient computer applications on your resume is stupid.

DO NOT list things on your resume like this:

I can use the following programs-

Word, Office, Excel
Linux, XP, Mac which is linux
3ds Max

Please don't make application lists on your resumes.
It makes you look like a total idiot.

The proper way is to only list applications you have accomplished something with.

Instead of a long listing like that, type - "Created full lighting and rigging setup for the short 3D animated film BlahBlah"

Anything that doesnt have an accomplishment, LEAVE OUT of the resume, please.
You tell the person in an interview only...I can use all this software and maybe rattle off a quick list for em.

Nothing more boring for prospective employers than reading some internet noobs applications he started up once, listed on his resume.

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2/8/2009 7:01:50 PM (last edit: 2/8/2009 8:59:26 PM)
show user profile  Phalse
Also if they ask you in an interview "Where do you see yourself in 5 years Duders?"

DONT say "doing your wife"
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2/8/2009 7:48:04 PM (last edit: 2/8/2009 7:48:04 PM)
show user profile  Duders
Cheers yet gain guy's. coincidentally i saw a video of the Gamespot UK guys doing a tour of dice just yesterday. looks like a pretty nice play to work. Are we just in a good business for nice 'fun' work places or has the whole business world changed to encourage scootering around the hallways and drawing on the walls?

Cheers for the tip on not listng applications. The Uni are very specific about the fact they are not just giving us Max tutorials, and are teaching us how to use 3d packages in general, and animation principles.

EDIT Hopefully they wont be called me Duders in and interview

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2/9/2009 1:38:31 AM (last edit: 2/9/2009 1:40:41 AM)
show user profile  donvella
NEVER UNDER ESTIMATE DRAWING ON WALLS MUAHHA! its great motivation lol. dont forget the 2 hour lunch breaks in front of UT3

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2/9/2009 2:15:18 AM (last edit: 2/9/2009 2:15:18 AM)
show user profile  Duders
Cheers for all the input. Got a weird request. Would it be possible to talk to one of you about jobs and industry in a formal setting (An email will do) I have this careers unit and one of the things we have to do is find out about jobs and how to get them/ how someone got theirs. I realise some of you just have but for the purposes of the unit it has to be an email :(

I realise this would take up some of your valuable, time but I will be very grateful... and I'll bake you a cake.

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2/9/2009 1:12:41 PM (last edit: 2/9/2009 1:12:41 PM)
show user profile  Bolteon
what kinda cake?

p.s. stay in school, getting hired right now even with experience is a toughy as error mentioned.

-Marko Mandaric

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2/9/2009 2:33:40 PM (last edit: 2/9/2009 2:33:40 PM)
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