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Gaming Card advice..
show user profile  ScotlandDave
I was planning on buying a GTX 570, thinking that yeh that`ll do fine for general 3d work and should play the latest games.

However what i`ve been reading is that graphics cards with anything less than 2/3Gb vram is causing a lot of Battlefield3 users to have mild to bad stuttering etc when playing at high settings / 1080 ( source ).

So it seems that, these games need moar memory. I can appreciate that, but don`t feel comfortable paying 400 quid for the privelage of having a card with 3Gb.. Apparently some of the 560Ti cards perform really well and are available with a bit more ram.

At this point in fact i`m not sure, maybe i should be looking at ATI cards as well? Any advice greatly appreciated..

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12/1/2011 11:24:20 AM (last edit: 12/1/2011 11:25:54 AM)
show user profile  jareu

I thought u meant like this at first :P

honestly though, i have a GTX480 and its brilliant. BF3 on full specd at 1080 is smooth as a baby's ass

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12/1/2011 11:35:13 AM (last edit: 12/1/2011 11:35:13 AM)
show user profile  Nik Clark
Personally, I'd get the 2GB 560ti, as I'm a cheapskate.

The ones with dual cards that are mentioned are probably micro-stuttering, not FPS drop?

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12/1/2011 11:35:40 AM (last edit: 12/1/2011 11:35:40 AM)
show user profile  Cheesegeezer
I have battlefield 3 and running this on a Windows 7 32bit Ultimate and have no problems with stuttering on my ATI HD5850 card at 1080p. The equivilant now is the HD6850 and it's alot cheaper than the 5850 was.

My current rig is an AMD dual core processor running at 3.0Ghz. 4GB DDR2 RAM and a pretty simple MOBO. All games run of my SATA II - 500GB 7200rpm.

CoD Black ops seems to choke the CPU at certain parts of the game, but other than that all games I throw at it play well.

I would be very careful with what you read about GFX cards, most of these people that write up about these issues are sensitive to these effects. I would go onto Hexus and read up about the cards you are looking for, they do a pretty good review with nice benchtests that will help make your own mind up.

ATI HD6870 would be the card for you from the ATI side of the fence, just check your clearance in your chassis as these are pretty long cards.

Hope this helps.
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12/1/2011 11:35:57 AM (last edit: 12/1/2011 11:35:57 AM)
show user profile  LionDebt

I too am in the market for a gfx card update, but possibly also mobo, CPU and PSU if my funds will stretch. I'll watch this thread closely :)
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12/1/2011 11:43:52 AM (last edit: 12/1/2011 11:43:52 AM)
show user profile  spoon
I have a 2Gb 6950, and run at 1900*1200 on ultra detail, cpu is an i5 760.
A friend of mine has a 1.2Gb (or is it 1.3Gb?) GTX 570, runs at 1900*1080 ultra detail, and his cpu is a i5 750.

If what you say is right, his system should be less smooth because he does not have enough memory, but this is simply not the case. That friend i'm talking about has been doing fps games for many years, often doing very well in clan-based competition, so if his system wouldn't run smooth, i think he would notice.

I would say more than 2Gb is overkill.

ps: something to consider is that the people who actually bought gfx cards of 3Gb probably feel the need to convince others that their purchase was NOT silly ;)

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12/1/2011 12:59:03 PM (last edit: 12/1/2011 1:01:38 PM)
show user profile  Nik Clark
My computer won't even run Battlefield 2 on lowest settings. I really, really need to upgrade.

On the positive side, my son is old enough now that we can play LAN BF1942. Good times.

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12/1/2011 1:06:51 PM (last edit: 12/1/2011 1:06:51 PM)
show user profile  ScotlandDave
It`s hard to say if Overclockers are just trying to sell pricier cards ( on the link i provided at the top ), but it looks like they`ve just tested between a 1Gb 560Ti and a 2Gb 560Ti - what`s worrying is performance in BF3 fps is DOUBLE for the 2Gb card..

However i`ve heard users also experience stutter with BF3 which is solved by disabling hyperthreading ( i think Bobbyboy had this ).. Which confuses things slightly..

I think 2Gb is a safe bet if it`s within a reasonable price bracket.

Thanks for the info folks!

One other thing - does CUDA, VRayRT and all that GPU jazz have any bearing on whether to choose ATI or NVIDIA?? Same question regards video RAM i guess too..

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12/1/2011 1:18:35 PM (last edit: 12/1/2011 1:18:59 PM)
show user profile  Nik Clark
CUDA = Nvidia only.

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12/1/2011 1:19:57 PM (last edit: 12/1/2011 1:19:57 PM)
show user profile  Cheesegeezer
I'm under the impression that CUDA handles rendering much better than the ATI cards. So if you want the best of both worlds (gaming and 3D) I would go with NVidia. That's my next card for my 3D Rig.
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12/1/2011 2:25:58 PM (last edit: 12/1/2011 2:25:58 PM)
show user profile  MrExcite
Im also in with the 2gb 6950. Runs BF3 like a champ. Catalyst updates have cleaned up the stuttering, along with EA updates. Paid $279 4 months ago, but I'd vouch for the performance.

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12/1/2011 3:42:15 PM (last edit: 12/1/2011 3:42:48 PM)
show user profile  IBENEZ21
VrayRT uses opencl, not CUDA. So it should not make a difference between nvidia and ati.

Iray on the other hand..

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12/1/2011 3:43:29 PM (last edit: 12/1/2011 3:43:29 PM)
show user profile  Joey Parker Jr.
I was also planning on getting the 570.
As with most of these hardware threads I'm more uncertain now than before.
Up until this point I've only had ATI cards.
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12/1/2011 3:49:12 PM (last edit: 12/1/2011 3:49:12 PM)
show user profile  ScotlandDave
I dunno, i think NVidia really has it all, but i don`t know enough about ATI cards in comparison. I`d feel like i was losing out in some cases without CUDA i think.. Dunno.. Who knows.. It`s a minefield.. Designed to baffle consumers.. I`m confused.. I don`t know what i`m paying for at each price bracket..

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12/1/2011 5:26:46 PM (last edit: 12/1/2011 5:26:46 PM)
show user profile  Mr_Stabby
Nvidia sure is trying hard to leave AD product users no other choice then geforce but tbh i could swap to a radeon right now and not miss a thing. Iray sure is novel to look at for the first 10 mins but after that, well, i've yet to find a good use for it. cuda accelerated physx in max 2012 is another argument of theirs, which would be relevant if i used physx.. or max 2012 (given its viewport performance still sucks, and from what i've heard so does the physx feature set).

That said is there any upside by going with camp AMD? well, overall the 6970 performs exactly like the gtx 570 and suprise - it costs exactly the same amount of money too. The only difference is that the amd card has 50% more memory compared to nvidia so its more friendly of big resolutions if you got multi monitor setup in mind or something. The more interesting card is the 6950, if you live in my country for example you can buy one for $100 less then the 6970 and bios flash it into 6970. Afaik this works in most of europe and asia too, not sure about US.

Either way amd is announcing its new generation of cards next week, might want to hold off a little while since prices are going to drop soon.

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12/1/2011 6:46:51 PM (last edit: 12/1/2011 6:46:51 PM)
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