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Freelance fees
show user profile  rob@dynamic
Hi guys,

I know this questions is bounced about a fair bit.

But I was wondering what sort of price you guys charge for freelance work(daily rate). Work is just providing models and renders no animation.

Thanks


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12/17/2011 12:18:30 PM (last edit: 12/17/2011 12:18:30 PM)
show user profile  zeefusion
Take your current or previous annual wage as a 3d artist. So for example lets say you earned 20k a year.

Divide 20k by how many days you work in a year, that's roughly 260. = 77. x 2 because I would double it to cover other costs such as software and utilities. = 154.

Thats £154 for a full day rate, divide that by 8 hours for a working day = £19.25 per hour.
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12/17/2011 12:55:55 PM (last edit: 12/17/2011 12:55:55 PM)
show user profile  STRAT
dont forget to add your experience and worth as an artist into that equation ;)





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12/17/2011 2:11:41 PM (last edit: 12/17/2011 2:11:48 PM)
show user profile  zeefusion
That is true, but you could consider your annual wage given to you by your employer as an estimate on how much experience and how good you are. Or in most cases employers tend to bleed you dry for no decent wage at all.
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12/17/2011 2:19:06 PM (last edit: 12/17/2011 2:19:06 PM)
show user profile  STRAT
i mean how good you think you are, not your boss. those 2 values will always differ greatly.

my freelance costs are nicely higher than my employment wage. employers will pay you as little as possible whatever as you say.





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12/17/2011 2:20:56 PM (last edit: 12/17/2011 2:22:20 PM)
show user profile  rob@dynamic
Thanks for the comments guys. Really helpful! Muchos gracias


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12/17/2011 8:23:41 PM (last edit: 12/17/2011 8:23:41 PM)
show user profile  iejun
depends on project.... i charge opprox 100 euro a hour for big projects, more for small....keep in mind....you need to pay all your costs with it:

software
insurance
tax
studio/work area rent
electra
phone calls
meetings

:)
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12/17/2011 10:30:04 PM (last edit: 12/17/2011 10:30:48 PM)
show user profile  killerbee2
depending on the country you're in, tax will be your biggest expense.
Here in Belgium, if you make 10 grand, 7 goes to tax.

You can balance that with making expenses like software, hardware, fancy car (alldoh from next year this will also be gone here) , restaurants, etc.




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12/18/2011 1:10:10 AM (last edit: 12/18/2011 1:10:10 AM)
show user profile  Bolteon
2000.

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12/18/2011 1:13:30 AM (last edit: 12/18/2011 1:13:30 AM)
show user profile  rob@dynamic
Jeeeez KB that tax is insane!!!

I dont suppose anyone has an invoice template they would mind emailing me please? robhicklin AT hotmail.com

thanks again for all the help.

Marko, does that 2k take into account the strippers :-)


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12/18/2011 4:43:14 PM (last edit: 12/18/2011 4:43:14 PM)
show user profile  advance-software
kb - how come ? what's your corp tax ? what about income tax ?

can you pay yourself in dividends instead of salary ?

no doubt you have a tax accountant to help you optimize.

50% top rate income tax there. 40% here.

move to jersey.

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12/18/2011 4:47:36 PM (last edit: 12/18/2011 5:03:23 PM)
show user profile  killerbee2
AS, I'm seriously thinking about Luxembourg or Dubai atm, since our new governement is going to raise taxes even more. Sure I got an accountant taking care of my business but the way politics are doing now they gonna punish (read "kill" the middleclass insanely by raising taxes aimed at them. (those taxes were allready one of the highest in the world).

To balance out the only way here is counter it with expenses. You can write yourself a nice loan (but not too high cause then you'll end up with personal taxes) and buy some renderfarm & software & a car & a printer & new years gifts & michelin dinners & ... But then again, while it might sound fun, in the end it doesnt really contribute to your wealth when you retire.

For instance dividents are going up from being taxated 15% to 21%.
Then probably my car is going to cost me me about 7200 euro more per year on taxes.
Then buying real estate with your company is going to be heavily taxated.
Atm pensions are being re-organised and cut down.
Gifts and heritages will be heavily taxted as well.

As it's going now current governement is heading for an industrialisation of the country where only big companies (who have a tax benefit, some pay 0% tax here) will survive and smaller companies will die or flee out of the country.




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12/19/2011 3:39:49 AM (last edit: 12/19/2011 3:45:18 AM)
show user profile  advance-software
understood. there are other options (here at least), for example you could offset some of your tax into an investment into a startup.
http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/eis

(obviously that's uk centric but maybe you have something similar)

would be nice if our governments could get their collective 5h1t together & get the EU running smoothly & efficiently so it doesn't cost us a fortune to run. obviously our lot are dragging their heels. sorry about that. anyhow, going off topic.
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12/19/2011 9:55:50 AM (last edit: 12/19/2011 9:55:50 AM)
show user profile  ScotlandDave
Jeez KB that is a LOT of tax.. What the fuck is the world coming to?



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12/19/2011 12:02:04 PM (last edit: 12/19/2011 12:02:04 PM)
show user profile  rob@dynamic
should I be adding tax onto my invoice? In UK it's 17.5% right? How do I go about paying the tax?

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12/19/2011 12:41:17 PM (last edit: 12/19/2011 12:41:17 PM)
 
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