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Face Rig - Wire parameters or Reaction Manager
show user profile  Loud
I've seen tutorials on both, and I could use either, but I've heard some animators say that Wire Parameters is the way to go because it gives you more flexibility. I've never used the Reaction Manager, but it seems straightforward enough and I wanted to give it a try, but again I've heard that I shouldn't even consider it.

Does anyone here have any experience with both and could speak to the use of one over the other?

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2/25/2009 2:46:40 PM (last edit: 2/25/2009 2:46:40 PM)
show user profile  Dave
I used to use a combination of both, now it's Wire Paramaters all the way. You won't regret it.

"I flew over Egypt once"

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2/25/2009 2:48:03 PM (last edit: 2/25/2009 2:48:03 PM)
show user profile  Loud
Roger. Thanks. That confirms what I'll be working on tonight.

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2/25/2009 3:37:05 PM (last edit: 2/25/2009 3:37:05 PM)
show user profile  jbrophy
I don't know if I completely agree with that. Wiring parameters essentially gives you a 2 wire option. As slider goes to the right turn light from 0 - 1. Reaction manager on the other hand can go from 0 - 1 turning light up then back down then back up again. Anyway wiring is great if you need a linear 1 to 1 result. Reaction manager is more work but has a lot more power under the hood.

No combine the two and you are in business

Jesse Brophy

Fry Monkey

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2/25/2009 6:00:51 PM (last edit: 2/25/2009 6:00:51 PM)
show user profile  jbrophy
I wanted to talk about an exampl eof what I mean

I have wired some morphs of ahead before to go from static face to angry look as the slider went from left to right. Worked great but 1 to 1 result. I then did the same thing through reaction manager on the slider but as the lider got to .5 I had his eyes close some then open up, all through morphs as it got towards 1. I I also had his mouth open slightly at .5 Anyway this gave me a much more realistic result than regular to mad. I don't even know if I am making sense.

Jesse Brophy

Fry Monkey

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2/25/2009 6:03:56 PM (last edit: 2/25/2009 6:03:56 PM)
show user profile  $$T-bone$$
Wiring is the way of the master....whom ever he/she may be.

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2/25/2009 7:06:04 PM (last edit: 2/25/2009 7:06:04 PM)
show user profile  jbrophy
remedial masters :P

Jesse Brophy

Fry Monkey

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2/25/2009 7:18:05 PM (last edit: 2/25/2009 7:18:05 PM)
show user profile  Loud
I see what you mean Jesse. On the other hand though, wiring parameters isn't necessarily 1 to 1 as you can write any expression you want to be controlled by a parameter.

Reaction Manager on the surface looks great and the simple tests I have done it seems intuitive and simple, but anecdotal evidence suggests that I shouldn't use it. Perhaps Reaction Manager is frowned upon because it is somewhat limited? I could see that being the case, but if it does what I need in simple cases then why avoid it?

To paraphrase Tyson Ibele:

"Personally I never use the Reaction Mananager ... I don't want to ever touch it ... I find that I can do everything just as well and even better with just the Wire Parameters..."

He doesn't give specifics as to why.

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2/25/2009 8:29:57 PM (last edit: 2/25/2009 8:31:52 PM)
show user profile  mrgrotey
Just sounds like a variation of the 'is Maya better than Max' argument if you ask me. It's just down to preference.

One bad thing for reaction manager is that once the reactions have been set-up and the file is saved, you cant then merge the object/s into a new scene and keep their reactions, they get lost in the merge process whereas wired parameters get transported along with the merge. Though this was found in max7 and I haven't tried it since then so don't know if it has changed

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2/26/2009 4:21:05 AM (last edit: 2/26/2009 4:25:39 AM)
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