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OT - After effects output question
show user profile  Zman
Ya, its not a max question but perhaps someone here can help me.

We've usually outputted our movies in MP4 format.
But when We work with "gradienty" frames, It seems to lose alot of the quality no matter how high I set the quality output.
Any solution for the perfect format output, to upload for vimeo evantually.

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12/30/2014 9:37:40 PM (last edit: 12/30/2014 9:37:40 PM)
show user profile  9krausec
Try pushing it to Media Encoder instead and go from there. Adobe has been pushing going through the Media Encoder for video with CC.

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12/30/2014 9:56:32 PM (last edit: 12/30/2014 9:56:32 PM)
show user profile  Zman
I could Render it to a sequence and encode the MP4 in a different encoding software I guess.

Anyone knows whats the best encoding software / settings for vimeo/web ?

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12/31/2014 7:05:06 AM (last edit: 12/31/2014 7:05:06 AM)
show user profile  herfst1
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12/31/2014 7:18:23 AM (last edit: 12/31/2014 7:18:23 AM)
show user profile  gogodr
enable h264 in AE and then set the bitrate higher if you still have the problem.

Hello there

beautiful ;3

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12/31/2014 9:10:46 AM (last edit: 12/31/2014 9:10:46 AM)
show user profile  reeves1984
A good way to avoid banding is to add a tiny bit of noise

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12/31/2014 1:02:38 PM (last edit: 12/31/2014 1:02:38 PM)
show user profile  Dr_Jim
1) A bit of noice as Reeves says

2) dude - Use media encoder. That is your BEST bet. Render from AE to uncompressed, then use media encoder (with the VIMEO preset!).
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12/31/2014 1:30:58 PM (last edit: 12/31/2014 1:30:58 PM)
show user profile  Zman
Thnx for the tips guys.
Reeves - I know about that trick. Had to use it.

Quality turned out okay after all my experiments, but still far from perfect.
This is the result btw -

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12/31/2014 6:58:01 PM (last edit: 12/31/2014 6:58:01 PM)
show user profile  ScotlandDave
As above try running some subtle noise over the gradients to reduce banding. Even blurays suffers from that kind of patchyness it`s a pet hate of mine tbh..

As Jim said MediaEncoder presets are pretty good for targeting various platforms..


^ Looks really good man :)

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12/31/2014 6:59:28 PM (last edit: 12/31/2014 7:00:50 PM)
show user profile  khamski
Nice cable tree!

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1/5/2015 10:48:20 PM (last edit: 1/5/2015 10:48:20 PM)
show user profile  Westcoast13
We always render out uncompressed AVI's from AE and encode to H264 through media encoder. Had so many niggly problems with mp4's straight from AE and that stops them.

The trick reeves mentioned is a good one too, I just stick an adjustment layer on top of everything with a 1% noise in, that cleans up the banding problems nicely.

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1/7/2015 9:14:42 AM (last edit: 1/7/2015 9:14:42 AM)
show user profile  Zman
This thread still active ?

Aight then, I know about the noise trick - believe me, we did it.

You guys can see the end result now.
This is the best we were able to get out of endless experiments with different settings in both After and Media encoder.

I think the end result we came up with (the video you can see on Vimeo) is GOOD, but its far from PERFECT. if you look closely throughout the movie you can see the grads aren't perfect in the video, they were perfect inside AFTER

My question is why in 2015 I cant save out the quality of my movies as it is in the work mode ??
This isnt 2005 anymore. people are talking about crazy 4K resolutions as standard in the near future yet I am still unable to save out a full high quality video ....

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1/7/2015 9:57:50 AM (last edit: 1/7/2015 9:57:50 AM)
show user profile  herfst1
Have you tried adding noise?
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1/7/2015 11:02:24 AM (last edit: 1/7/2015 11:02:24 AM)
show user profile  reeves1984
Maybe I missed it, but did you say the video looked good after you exported it, but before you uploaded to vimeo?

Simon Reeves - VFX Artist & Blog
twitter <-- I work here

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1/7/2015 11:46:23 AM (last edit: 1/7/2015 11:46:23 AM)
show user profile  chillywilson
I usually export out of AE uncompressed Quicktime animation codec,
then throw that into media encoder.

Quicktime, H264, HD, progressive, square pixels, 10k bit rate.
A 30 sec commercial is usually around 35 megs.

Love your video by the way.

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1/7/2015 3:11:55 PM (last edit: 1/7/2015 3:11:55 PM)
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