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Digital Painting Software for a beginner.
show user profile  S. Silard
Hey guys.

So my GF finally decided to get into digital painting. She was super rejective against it, as she finds these digital paintings too fake.
So now as she has that wish for more than a two months, I'm buying her a Wacom tablet for her birthday. And I should get a decent software as well. But I have to be super careful, it has to be awesome right from the start. Also her laptop isn't really the most beastiest one.

So far I have thought about/tried:

Photoshop CS2 - Okay, but might be confusing, it's more photo editor than painter.
ArtRage - Instant fun, but childish, absolutely not professional.
KRITA - Suprisingly well working, photoshop-like painting software. With tons of good brushes.
Autodesk SketchBook Pro - Maybe a bit childish, but simplistic.

What do you guys think about this subject?
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6/15/2016 4:19:59 PM (last edit: 6/15/2016 4:19:59 PM)
show user profile  Dave
The one thing I've found, is that if you give a good artist any tool, they'll do good work.

Your girlfriend will likely want to try out other software's eventually, so whatever you're thinking of now will probably be a stepping stone. As soon as she understands the basics of digital V traditional she'll be able to venture off on her own.

With this in mind, simple is probably your best bet for now. I'm not sure what you mean by "childish"... what could be any more childish than a brush and a blank piece of paper? That's sort of the point.

As an aside, I use Mischief for my doodles.

If your girlfriend is looking more for an oil/watercolour type of program, there's not much out there that I'm aware of, except for the likes of Verve but as much as I loved Verve, I just found the UI to be self-harming to any logical workflow.

"I flew over Egypt once"

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6/15/2016 5:52:17 PM (last edit: 6/15/2016 5:52:42 PM)
show user profile  S. Silard
@Dave Well by childish I generally mean it feels like it's made for little kids to fool around, it's like paint, just a bit better. With some fancy effect, like ArtRage has that basic canvas stuff, and if you use any of it's brushes it looks "realistic", and the watercolor is just flowing to every direction when you use it. It feels more like a game than a software for an artist. Also if you try to use layers, you can see maximum two layers at once, the filter and opacity options are hidden, like it's forbidden to use. And layers are a main difference between traditional and digital art, that you have to wrap to your head around and start to exploit it. Well that's just my point.

Simplistic is good on the other hand. When I jumped into 3D, I've started with google sketchup, after a week I understood enough basic stuff to get into 3DS Max.

Thanks for the suggestions by the way, I'll check them out.

Edit: Of course, she will decide whatever she want's to use. I just want to make sure the first ride is good.
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6/15/2016 6:46:25 PM (last edit: 6/15/2016 8:12:33 PM)
show user profile  S. Silard
@Dave Okay, so both of those you sent me seems to have a bit higher system requirements than my Gf's laptop. I don't know the full specification, so I did not posted. Thanks anyway.
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6/15/2016 8:12:24 PM (last edit: 6/15/2016 8:16:57 PM)
show user profile  chillywilson
Get her verve, It's free and fun.

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6/16/2016 3:01:39 AM (last edit: 6/16/2016 3:01:39 AM)
show user profile  HANZZ
Just get photoshop or corel painter and be done with it. There's no need to waste time learning a half-ass software only to have to learn an entirely new one in a month or two after the 1st program shows its limitations. Photoshop is the world's best digital painting program, with Corel Painter being more geared toward actual 'painterly' effects in the brushes and interactions while painting.

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6/16/2016 3:03:06 AM (last edit: 6/16/2016 3:03:06 AM)
show user profile  3Ddeath
Photoshop is still a pretty good painter!

Paired with a wacom cintiq its the go to program for background artists and matte painters in the animation industry here. (At least from what I See, got a bunch of them sitting next to me each day)

But ya, the interface is super wacked and confusing as hell for people starting out! good to learn it eventually though for sure, esp since a lot of programs try to copy photosohp style interface, its almost a type of interface in itself.

But ya, which ever one is more fun is good to start with for sure! modivation is the most important thing and that is kept with funness.

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6/16/2016 3:12:12 AM (last edit: 6/16/2016 3:12:12 AM)
show user profile  S. Silard
Tried mypaint, looked like a neat little program, lot's of brushes, and all. But buggy and choppy as hell, and crashes on me like an ocean wave.

chillywilson Verve requires a gpu with a bit higher performance than I'd like to.

HANZZ I see your point, but as I said, she find artworks made with photoshop overly fake (whatever that means to her). So KRITA looks good to me.
Have you guys heard about KRITA

3Ddeath Yeah it's a type of interface, and that kind of interface made learning Substance Painter super fast, didn't it?
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6/16/2016 3:23:18 AM (last edit: 6/16/2016 3:39:18 AM)
show user profile  Garp
> she find artworks made with photoshop overly fake

Have her browse lots of galleries (on CGTalk, for example). It might change her mind.

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6/16/2016 3:57:07 AM (last edit: 6/16/2016 3:57:07 AM)
show user profile  HANZZ
If you're looking for a program that emulates the actual nuances of a real paintbrush/palette knife, sponge, etc. then get Corel Painter. It's designed to recreate all those subtleties of the real brush which photoshop ignores.

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6/16/2016 4:12:15 AM (last edit: 6/16/2016 4:12:15 AM)
show user profile  TiMoN
Gotta put another point in for Verve, also because it's free.
The UI shows it's all coded by one guy, and really requires you to learn a lot of hotkeys. But the program is good, and Tarons youtube clips are great, too bad there aren't a lot of them.

Terribly boring signature.
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6/16/2016 1:38:41 PM (last edit: 6/16/2016 1:38:41 PM)
show user profile  LionDebt
+1 for Verve.

+1 for Mischief, but I just use it for mindmaps / flowcharts... Infinite zoom is fucking OP.

+53 for Photoshop. There's a reason it's the industry standard.
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6/16/2016 2:35:41 PM (last edit: 6/16/2016 2:36:05 PM)
show user profile  S. Silard
Hmmm, thanks guys.

@HANZZ Which is the latest version of Corel Painter that does run on Windows XP?

Edited, because I messed up the names... sorry guys.
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6/16/2016 2:55:32 PM (last edit: 6/16/2016 3:33:29 PM)
show user profile  3Ddeath
S. Silard Yes it did! :)

Portfolio Site
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6/16/2016 8:05:06 PM (last edit: 6/16/2016 8:05:06 PM)
show user profile  Error404
I've been wanting to break out my tablet and start learning Verve for some time now. Maybe I'll get off my butt and do it. -

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6/20/2016 12:46:25 AM (last edit: 6/20/2016 12:46:25 AM)
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