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Did I buy a dud?
show user profile  mrgrotey
Disclaimer: I'm crap at PC hardware issues so please be as clear as poss :)

Hey Guys, my graphics card and two monitors are connected like so...

DVI Socket ---> DVI to VGA Converter --> VGA lead to monitor

HDMI Socket --> HDMI to DVI Converter --> DVI Lead to Monitor


I thought I'd be good and Buy an HDMI lead to get rid of the converters and have it a bit neater so I would have the following

DVI Socket --> DVI Lead to Monitor

HDMI Socket --> New HDMI lead to monitor


But having bought it (item below), the monitor with the HDMI cable isn't detected. Do I need a different type of cable? Did I buy the wrong type? or is it likely that the cable it just a dud?

CLICK HERE

It does say that 'The cable requires a converter to work from your TV to Monitor.' But I'm not connecting it to the TV so I thought Id be ok.


Can you gurus help at all?




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11/12/2011 9:10:35 AM (last edit: 11/12/2011 9:38:22 AM)
show user profile  reeves1984
maybe! But what kind of warning is 'tv to monitor'? a TV IS a monitor..

I did use a cable like that though from ps3 to monitor, it had a funny resolution, my monitor didnt like it too much, but it did work..

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11/12/2011 10:58:26 AM (last edit: 11/12/2011 10:58:26 AM)
show user profile  soontekk
my first rule towards such complex setups is: don't fix if it aint broken
my second rule is: when you want to improve a setup do it right in one go

that being said i'd go for a good (inexpensive) solution like a cheap (maybe extra) vidcard that has the extra outputs that you need making sure you don't waste time and money on extra bits of cable and converters.

Just my €0.2
Good luck

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11/12/2011 11:53:31 AM (last edit: 11/12/2011 11:53:31 AM)
show user profile  mrgrotey
Right just found on another auction of the same type of cable the following clearer notice...

Important! - If you intend to use this cable with your computer then you will need a digital to analogue converter (not supplied) to use this cable.
HDMI is digital and VGA is analogue.


I'm assuming then that newer the DVI monitor is a digital monitor (this came with the PC) and the older VGA monitor is analogue (this came with a previous old PC and only has a VGA socket)

The converters are about £30 and need a separate power supply so I wont be going down that route as that's overkill and defeating the object of neatening the system up anyway.

here's the converter they are talking about...

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PC-VGA-HDMI-HD-Convertor-Adaptor-Analgue-Digital-/330590666278?pt=UK_Computing_CablesConnectors_RL&hash=item4cf8bd3e26



don't fix if it aint broken: The reason I decided to change the cable as my old VGA cable stopped working a few days ago so I'm currently on the 5m VGA cable that I use to connect my PC to the TV. I had to buy another cable anyway so I thought I'd try and be neater but it clearly cant work how I want, so I'll just but another shorter VGA to VGA cable and use it the original way again.

Thanks for the replies people.




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11/12/2011 12:01:42 PM (last edit: 11/12/2011 12:02:31 PM)
show user profile  reeves1984
Ah trouble!

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11/12/2011 12:23:31 PM (last edit: 11/12/2011 12:23:31 PM)
show user profile  advance-software
> Just my €0.2

has the cost of advice now gone up ?

it used to be $0.02

No idea what your monitor problem is. My nv driver needed me to enable hdmi in the control panel to use tv out the one time I tried it. ages ago. that probably doesn't help.

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11/12/2011 12:39:35 PM (last edit: 11/12/2011 12:53:04 PM)
show user profile  reeves1984
kurt's advice is worth it

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11/12/2011 2:24:46 PM (last edit: 11/12/2011 2:24:46 PM)
show user profile  CarnivoreMan
I am an IT Professional with years of experience under my metaphorical belt.


First, I would like to start with the basics.

1. There should be a thick black cord running from the back of your computer to a power outlet on the wall or on a strip where other power cables plug in. Please ensure that each end is plugged in.

Try this and please advise if it corrects your problem.


Thank you
IT Support.






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11/12/2011 4:46:50 PM (last edit: 11/12/2011 4:46:50 PM)
show user profile  obsidian
Hmm... some connection basics:

VGA is an analog only video connection.
HDMI is a digital only video and digital audio connection.
DVI can be both digital and analog video and comes in a few different flavours, DVI-D, DVI-A and DVI-I (Digital, Analog and Integrated). Your video card comes with DVI-I that sends both an analog and digital signal simultaneously. The other two types of DVI are rarely used as an output and are usually on the receiving end or on the end of an adapter.
Mini-Display Port/Thunderbolt is both analog and digital video and sometimes digital audio depending on the age of the device.

So what you are trying to do is connect an HDMI output to a VGA input, going from a digital source to something that is expecting an analog signal, which does not work. I'm not sure what kind of monkey tries to manufacture these cables in the first place since they are essentially a waste of copper. Even with a converter box this cable wouldn't work, you would have HDMI from video card to HDMI on the converter box, and then VGA on the converter box to VGA on the monitor.

Also, the converter they are talking about is the wrong converter. That box is meant to take an analog signal and convert it into a digital one. Meaning if you had a VGA out on your video card and wanted to hook that up to an HDMI on your monitor - the exact reverse of your situation.

Here are your real options:

You can buy a cable that goes from HDMI to DVI-I/D (digital to digital). http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10231&cs_id=1023104&p_id=2661&seq=1&format=2

For your second monitor, you can get a cable that goes from DVI-I/A to VGA (digital/analog to analog). http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/dynex-dynex-1-8-m-6-ft-dvi-to-vga-cable-dx-c112241-dx-c112241/10132568.aspx

Just be aware that you can never go from any digital to analog signal or vice-versa.


I'm a Max noob so I gladly trade what I know about IT with what you guys know about polygon pushing.
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11/12/2011 5:36:49 PM (last edit: 11/12/2011 5:48:38 PM)
show user profile  soontekk
Grotey: i did not know that :o
mixing digital & analog is usually trouble (hence the screen res mixups), i usually stay clear of adapters to avoid getting more gray hair. Hence my advice.

As: yes, it was genuine european advice, not inbred hilbilly us jabber :]

Reevers: *hi-fives* :)

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11/13/2011 4:41:52 PM (last edit: 11/13/2011 4:41:52 PM)
show user profile  advance-software
so european advice is now 20 euro cents ?

us advice is usually 2 of their dollar cents.

given these changing market conditions, we will have to reconsider the new cost of uk advice & get back to you.

this is going to get awfully complicated when the francs & deutchmarks and dracma & all that come back.

maybe we should just go back to the barter system. each piece of advice being equivalent to one root vegetable.
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11/13/2011 4:54:17 PM (last edit: 11/13/2011 8:37:15 PM)
show user profile  horizon
VGA is analogue, DVI can be either (DVI-D and DVI-A) or even both (DVI-I), and HDMI is digital only, and it also carries audio along with video.

I had a similar problem before, wanted to plug it into TV without digital input, but found out it needs a converter, never bought it.

I guess you're attached to another object by an inclined plane wrapped helically around an axis. Screwed


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11/13/2011 4:57:01 PM (last edit: 11/13/2011 4:57:01 PM)
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