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New computer build advice
show user profile  9krausec
I have a budget of 5.5k for a new computer at work (for just the box 6k total with screens n' stuff). The software I'll be using on a day to day basis will be-

Adobe stuff

I'm looking for a well rounded work station that will work with heavy scenes and be able to keep up with a high render demand.

First question I have for you folks is should I go dual Xeon and if so, would you have any recommendations? I was thinking 2 hex core Xeons 2011 socket something something.

Below is what I'm generally thinking-

256 SSD

64GB of DDR4

Quadro K2200 4GB

Dual Intel® Xeon® Processor E5-2643 v3 (6C, 3.4GHz, Turbo, HT, 15M, 135W)

Right now I'm trying to pin down what would work best for me so I'm looking for general input at this point. After that I'll post a second round with specific hardware bits and see what you guys think. I have 5k budget for just the box and I'd like to spend all of it if possible. I'm sure Dell will stick whatever heat sinks on it and use whatever MB they have available for this request.


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1/15/2015 6:41:57 PM (last edit: 1/15/2015 11:33:34 PM)
show user profile  ijzerman
I would get the dual v3 xeons, they are pretty fast. Dunno if you need a quadro and if you use gpu rendering but you can also buy a Nvidia titan, it haves more vram.
Have you tought of decent cooling? Corsair h60/80/ whatever?

Have you checked / ? Nice site to compare overal cpu/gpu statistics.

Pushing buttons since "86
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1/16/2015 8:48:01 AM (last edit: 1/16/2015 8:48:01 AM)
show user profile  c0

Also might want to think about off-site backup...'Nice files you have there; it would be a shame if something were to happen to them':

Buy a UPS. If buying a Dell complete system, buy extended (parts) warranty.
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1/16/2015 11:55:48 AM (last edit: 1/16/2015 12:16:54 PM)
show user profile  9krausec
The more I think about it the more I'm itching to get those dual xeons now. Puts my price point to 7k which is over budget though :/

I would probably be fine with 32 gigs of ram and maybe a lesser card? The titan looks slick too but expensive as well. As far as a coolant system it'll come with whatever Dell sticks on there. I was planning to get the 3 year warranty just in case something stupid happens.

I'm just worried about ram and graphics due to the nature of the work which deals with heavy ass CAD models. I don't want to have my system chugging during work.

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1/16/2015 1:05:54 PM (last edit: 1/16/2015 1:05:54 PM)
show user profile  ijzerman
If your working with cad i would go for the quadro, a 4 gig quadro ist really a budgetcard either.
I have 16 gig at the office, i dont really go over 10 gigs of ram usage in 3d work so 32 would be ok? You can upgrade it later if you need to with ecc memory.
Since you configure at dell, you cant get the cheapest card and buy a gtx 970 for $330? or would that ruin your warranty?

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1/16/2015 4:19:10 PM (last edit: 1/16/2015 4:19:10 PM)
show user profile  9krausec
Alright. So I think I'm going to revise the request for 32 gigs of ram. Below are the lists of GPU options I have from Dell. I won't be doing any GPU rendering but plan on using VrayRT frequently.

Interestingly enough they are only offering Quadro cards here. That or AMD stuff (will not touch AMD anything). I bet they can stick whatever in there upon request. More or less I need to buy what I want all at once. There is no upgrade here or there (at least not for the next 2 years after the purchase). So would the K2200 Quadro be a good choice or not? It is expensive but I'm open to other suggestions such as the ones above.

Thanks guys.

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1/16/2015 5:34:24 PM (last edit: 1/16/2015 5:35:08 PM)
show user profile  joelr
Solidworks modeling is a single process application- meaning high speed few cores are much better for modeling. This is opposed to rendering, which is usually multiple core and multiple CPU friendly

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1/16/2015 6:53:13 PM (last edit: 1/16/2015 6:53:13 PM)
show user profile  9krausec
Just to clarify I don't model in SW very much at all. I take already built models, and set them up for Maya to be imported in heavily tessellated.

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1/16/2015 8:29:24 PM (last edit: 1/16/2015 8:29:24 PM)
show user profile  Mr_Stabby
Prices based off newegg

$1360 2 X Xeon E5-2630 v3
$800 8 X 8GB random unbuffered DDR4*
$420 ASUS Z10PE-D16*
$180 2 X Corsair h100i
$990 3 X GTX 970
$310 Corsair AX1200i
$225 Samsung MZ-7TE500BW (500GB)
$165 HGST H3IKNAS40003272SN (4TB)
$140 Fractal Arc XL
$4590 Total, pretty cost efficient setup. You could squeeze a little bit more cpu power by dropping another $1k on the cpu's but the gains would be marginal, need $1.5k at least for E5-2660's. New chips are coming in Q2 2015 so might want to wait for those.

Also the K2200 is a turd, it has around 1/3 of the performance of a single GTX 970

*Derp, forgot to check motherboard compatibility, changed parts.

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1/17/2015 11:25:22 AM (last edit: 1/17/2015 6:42:23 PM)
show user profile  soontekk
never buy a dell for various reasons
i would do somethnng like mr stabby but with an asus extreme rampage board, an i7 8core with 16threads (watercooled) and cheaper nvidia cards (the highest spec ones are too noisy and eat power) but that every builder for himself i guess

I like these cases

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1/17/2015 6:32:30 PM (last edit: 1/17/2015 6:42:30 PM)
show user profile  9krausec
Great input guys. I'm worried though that I'll be locked into buying a dell. I don't think work will allow me to build a computer. They might see it as too risky if something were to go wrong. :/

I also am no fan of Dell.

edit: Also thanks Stabby for taking the time do that.

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1/17/2015 6:41:21 PM (last edit: 1/17/2015 6:42:33 PM)
show user profile  Mr_Stabby
any other company they might take? I surfed dells page a little and all I saw was trash :/

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1/17/2015 6:46:05 PM (last edit: 1/17/2015 6:46:05 PM)
show user profile  soontekk
If work is scared and wants to pay for it then go with it, as long as they know they pay too much, will not be able to upgrade it themselves (so pay double for dell upgrades + sending it in etc) etc i'm all for it.

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1/17/2015 6:53:12 PM (last edit: 1/17/2015 6:53:12 PM)
show user profile  9krausec
They are open to any larger company. We buy all of our stuff through Dell so that's why they have a bias towards Dell.

We actually lease our computers through them so they get cycled out every 3 years. This build for me is not the case, we are planning on down right buying it and not just leasing.

We've looked at BoxxTech, but at the end of the day a Boxx would be extremely expensive and I'm not personally sold on their slogan that they are built to last... I mean yeah they'll last, but why would that be a selling point? In 2-3 years I'll be in the same position of buying another computer for work to keep up with everything.

The company is open to buying from any reputable company that would come with a warranty. I've always built my machines so I am not too familiar with companies that sell pre-built stuff.

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1/17/2015 6:57:40 PM (last edit: 1/17/2015 6:57:40 PM)
show user profile  soontekk
yeah i hear you, i used to have such a lease and its ok if you cycle and want no fuss (im saying this while grinding mynteeth lol) get the dual quadr k6000 ;)

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1/17/2015 7:05:42 PM (last edit: 1/17/2015 7:05:42 PM)
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