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Is the cintiq 12" worth the money? also, new pc spec's
show user profile  Bobbyboy
I'm getting a new computer and am wondering if it will be worth it to invest in a cintiq 12" as well for photoshop and zbrush work

From what I have read, it works really well, but its biggest draw back is the small screen size... and the price. about $1500 au

I'll be getting a $5000 loan to pay for the new computer set up and any training materials I want to purchase, so the money is there, but not enough to get a cintiq 20"
thats just too expensive. but even with the 12" i'm torn between it and just getting an intuos 3

The spec for the new computer if anyone is interested are

intel core2 quad 6600
seagate 500gb hd (+plus all my old hd's)
corsair true power 450w psu
asus p5kr mother board
4gb corsair 1066 ram
windows xp 64 pro
geforce 8800 512mb gt

Total is around $2000au including build time

Is that cpu 64bit? im assuming it is... but this will be my first new computer in 7 years so, not that up to date
Also, I've heard that the maximum ram a program will use using 64bit is still only 3gb? is that true?

Any suggestions regarding the tablet or the computer would be much appreciated
Cheers guys :)


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4/22/2008 7:57:27 PM (last edit: 4/22/2008 7:57:27 PM)
show user profile  Dejitarujin
#%&@ yeah that processor is 64 bit! A quad-core at that! I wish I could afford one. But you're going to want at least Windows Vista Home Premium to take advantage of all that, especially if you ever intend to get more RAM. Trust me, I hate Vista just as much as the next guy (usually a lot more), but XP 64 isn't going to give you optimal performance, and also actually has more compatibility problems than Vista (plus it's more expensive, at least on eBay).

Unfortunately, I can not offer much advice on the tablet, because I've never used one with a screen. However, if you choose to go with an Intuos, depending on the size, you may want to look into a Graphire4 instead. Even the Graphire's 512 levels of sensitivity are overkill in Photoshop, though I'm not sure about ZBrush.
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Specialty: Non-organic modelling and effects.
Setup: 3D Studio 2010 with finalRender.
Rig: No, no I can't.
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4/22/2008 8:28:43 PM (last edit: 4/22/2008 8:28:43 PM)
show user profile  [P]aradox
>Also, I've heard that the maximum ram a program will use using 64bit is still only 3gb? is that true?

Absolutely not, unless you're running a 32-bit operating system. XP 64-bit and Vista 64-bit will let you use all the RAM you'll ever need (theoretically, up to 16.8 million terabytes). 64-bit max will use as much as it can.
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4/22/2008 8:40:27 PM (last edit: 4/22/2008 8:40:27 PM)
show user profile  Dejitarujin
"XP 64-bit and Vista 64-bit will let you use all the RAM you'll ever need (theoretically, up to 16.8 million terabytes)."

According to Microsoft, Vista Home Basic x64 can handle 8GB, Home Premium x64 can handle 16GB, while 64-bit versions of Ultimate, Business, and Enterprise can handle a vague "128+ GB". It's perfectly plausible that these are limitations implemented by Microsoft for marketing purposes - though it's equally plausible that there may be hacks to fix this. I don't have information about 64-bit XP in that regard.
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Specialty: Non-organic modelling and effects.
Setup: 3D Studio 2010 with finalRender.
Rig: No, no I can't.
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4/22/2008 8:51:45 PM (last edit: 4/22/2008 8:51:45 PM)
show user profile  horizon
ok where's that 100 terabyte switch


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4/22/2008 9:00:42 PM (last edit: 4/22/2008 9:00:42 PM)
show user profile  Setherial
I can tell you the Cintiq 21" opened a new world for me, it's amazing and I haven't regretted buying it for one minute.
The Cintiq 12" is appealing when you have a labtop and you can take it with you everywhere, or just sit in the sofa drawing. I'm tempted buying one myself.
That said I think for ZBrush work it's way too small, and if you hook it up to your pc it will take the place of your second monitor and it's rather tiny for that.

In photoshop and or Painter I think it will just mean learning to deal with the limited screen size and adapting to that. Toggling hide dialogs (full screen mode) a lot, zooming a lot, etc... Not unlike a small sketch book but with a shitload of extra options :).

For Zbrush realize you will need your keyboard in combination with the screen which is a pain in the arse because you need to be able to touch the screen with the pen and have easy access to your keyboard. I can tell you, for Zbrush work the intuos is A LOT BETTER.
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4/23/2008 1:52:11 AM (last edit: 4/23/2008 1:52:11 AM)
show user profile  soontekk
i currently own an intuos3 wide and i have promised myself a cintiq 21 by the end of this year, maybe sooner

i will probably want to use it in combination with mudbox a lot and photoshop ofc
mudbox has a good tablet interface (i think)

the 12" looks tiny and more like a gadget imo

melting ur brainz!
/ FOS4 / FO2 / Blurb / Twitter / Facebook / Vimeo /


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4/23/2008 7:37:07 AM (last edit: 4/23/2008 7:37:51 AM)
show user profile  Setherial
it is a gadget

PS: does that mean we can expect a sketchbook update by 2009 Kurt ? ;)
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4/23/2008 7:42:49 AM (last edit: 4/23/2008 7:43:47 AM)
show user profile  Dave
Am I right in thinking these are monitors you can "draw" on? So you'd still need to hook it up to a PC/Laptop? What do you guys think of them Tablet PC's?

"I flew over Egypt once"

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4/23/2008 8:02:32 AM (last edit: 4/23/2008 8:02:32 AM)
show user profile  mrgrotey
I thought they were the PC and monitor in one




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4/23/2008 8:08:22 AM (last edit: 4/23/2008 8:08:22 AM)
show user profile  Setherial
DD currently uses a tablet PC, it's less accurate as a wacom but he says in combo with ArtRage it works quite well.

Yes a Cintiq is a flat screen monitor that is a wacom tablet as well, so you just draw with the pen on the screen. I prefer working on the cintiq over working on paper. When I was still using my intuos I didn't have the same control as I had when working on paper, so back then I preffered paper.
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4/23/2008 8:18:11 AM (last edit: 4/23/2008 8:18:37 AM)
show user profile  soontekk
lol, yes working on those sketches
packed my sketchbook to take with me in portugal next month so something is bound to happen :)

one of the great secondary uses of a wacom screen is that u can plug it into any machine and do stuff without the need of a keyboard+mouse+dvi screen

melting ur brainz!
/ FOS4 / FO2 / Blurb / Twitter / Facebook / Vimeo /


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4/23/2008 11:52:01 AM (last edit: 4/23/2008 11:52:01 AM)
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