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Cinema4d = I already miss max
show user profile  9krausec
Hey everyone! For Class I am learning how to operate Cinema4d which I thought wouldn't be too bad, just learning the UI and hotkeys, but the more I have played around with cinema4d (mac) the more I realize that there are some larger differences than expected.

I made this thread for anyone with the most basic Cinema4d knowledge to drop by and answer some basic questions if they so desire..

Question1- How do you extrude an edge? I have learned that in the C4d world, extruding/dragging out edges is called sliding edges. I have figured out how to slide edges, but no new faces are created which doesn't help plane modeling out too much.. Also during my research I have come across people saying that you cannot "slide" multiple edges at one time without a plug in.. Umm? Ok?

Any ideas you Cinema4d users out there?

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2/7/2011 10:59:08 PM (last edit: 2/7/2011 10:59:08 PM)
show user profile  ScotlandDave
Select edge(s), right click hit extrude, or hit m for submenu and t for extrude - and click/drag..


Two main things i love about cinema 4d, it`s much quicker to work with ( once u get used which doesnt take long ) and materials+rendering are much easier and faster to go from prototype to finished render. It does have it`s cons the same as any other software tho..

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2/7/2011 11:08:14 PM (last edit: 2/7/2011 11:10:07 PM)
show user profile  advance-software
Try an xref. They work better than in max.
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2/7/2011 11:30:14 PM (last edit: 2/28/2011 10:04:23 PM)
show user profile  9krausec
Thanks for the reply with the extrude edge. It helped me out a lot (the M key hotbox thing)..

I call upon you once more though! I am going to freak out pretty soon. C4d is busting my nuts.

So I want to do a SIMPLE selection of edges, but C4D has decided to select edges that I don't want to select!! This is frustrating because I know 3ds Max pretty well, and now I am being held back by seemingly simple crap like this.. What to do?



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2/28/2011 10:02:00 PM (last edit: 2/28/2011 10:02:00 PM)
show user profile  9krausec
Screw this.. I am just going to model my school projects in 3ds Max and import then into Cinema4d. This is a load of bullsh*t.... I refuse to ever use a damn mac EVER for this line of work. I would rather flip burgers.

Why do macs need to suck so profoundly??? WHY?

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2/28/2011 10:15:00 PM (last edit: 2/28/2011 10:15:00 PM)
show user profile  advance-software
You could try asking c4d questions on a c4d forum ...
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2/28/2011 10:16:13 PM (last edit: 2/28/2011 10:16:23 PM)
show user profile  9krausec
@AS- Oh go make some 3d web browsing stuff.. : P

I didn't really want to go to another forum, considering this one is the best for everything. I could probably ask a question on how to fabricate a flux capacitor and get a better response on this forum than a forum dedicated to the fabrication of flux capacitors.

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2/28/2011 10:20:03 PM (last edit: 2/28/2011 10:20:03 PM)
show user profile  Philbert
I really wanted to get into C4D as I've not used max for years and C4D looks really good for the things I want to do.

Saying that, I've just been given a quick 3D job and have jumped straight back into max and am surprised at how much I remember about poly modelling

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2/28/2011 10:43:57 PM (last edit: 2/28/2011 10:43:57 PM)
show user profile  9krausec
I think it's the Mac OS that is killing this experience for me...

Macs can go burn in hell for all I care. Just because I click the middle mouse button does NOT mean I want to know the current time and weather conditions. I refuse to use a mac for professional purposes until apple gets their head out of their ass and develops an OS based around functionality and not just being aesthetically pleasing to an 8 year old girl playing with glitter and stuffed ponies.

Oh, yeah, maybe it would also be beneficial for apple to get an ALT key symbol that has some resemblance to "ALT" and not some dumbass symbol that looks like it came from a crappy SciFi movie.

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2/28/2011 10:47:49 PM (last edit: 2/28/2011 10:47:49 PM)
show user profile  Joey Parker Jr.
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2/28/2011 10:48:47 PM (last edit: 2/28/2011 10:48:47 PM)
show user profile  ScotlandDave
Whoah hold ur horses young man! :) Hitting U then B lets u do ring selections ( on poly`s edges or verts - which is more than max lets you ), and hitting U then L does loops. If you`re using the rectangular selection marquee thing, look at Tolerant Selection and OnlySelectVisibleElements checkbox`s - tolerant means u can select say an edge without fully encompassing it, visibleelements is self explanatory..

[edit] Can`t comment on the mac experience :/

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2/28/2011 10:55:44 PM (last edit: 2/28/2011 10:56:19 PM)
show user profile  9krausec
@ScotlandDave- Yeah, checked tolerant selection and unchecked OnlySelectedVisibleElements...

I bet C4D is great on a PC. Not hating the software, hating the OS it is ran on.

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2/28/2011 10:59:46 PM (last edit: 2/28/2011 10:59:46 PM)
show user profile  parkerfamily

alright, so almost all of the "tech" classes at my school have Mac's (incredibly nice mac's mind you, like 24 inch screens, for a California public school this is absurd)

anyway, the teacher, all the kids, and pretty much everybody remotely related to the class hates the things except like 2 kids, but the alternative is Dell's from something like 2003.

so here's what i've learned to make mac's not suck.

that middle mouse shit, and EVERYTHING ELSE annoying about a mac, if you hit the little apple button i think it is, and go to settings, there's categories for everything. I actually like this far better than Windows' control panel. Any settings you open up, the hot key for it should be right next to the button. I also remember some sort of keyboard map where holding your mouse over a key said what it did.

tbh i can't remember much of it right now, i'm not in any of those classes this semester, i'm actually learning something useful (french. so useful if/when i go someplace outside the US)

Macs can be quite nice, you just can't possibly use one out of the box and not cringe.
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3/1/2011 4:05:16 AM (last edit: 3/1/2011 4:05:16 AM)
show user profile  9krausec
Hmm.. The mysterious apple. Thanks for the pointer.

What is up with the mouse sensitivity on a mac? It feels odd and not as responsive as a windows mouse.. That I think is one of the most annoying things for me.

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3/1/2011 4:45:55 AM (last edit: 3/1/2011 4:45:55 AM)
show user profile  Odie
FYI, you can change the mouse sensitivity in system preferences. You can also use any USB mouse on a mac with multiple buttons for left click, right click, middle button, etc.

As far as I can tell you should be able to get the same exact experience using C4D for Mac that you do for Windows since C4D has its own custom UI.

Also, dd is a good guy to talk to. He's a C4D wizard and he's proficient with both mac and PC.

P.S. I hated macs at first. Used to be a Windows-4-lifer. Until I bought a mac and now Windows bugs the shit out of me. It's all about what you're used to. But macs are pretty sweet. :)

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3/1/2011 6:36:20 AM (last edit: 3/1/2011 6:36:20 AM)
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