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show user profile  yossioren113
hey guys what can be the reason that i cant group objects?
i converted all to editable poly..
reset xform...
what else can be the reason??

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1/24/2015 6:23:50 PM (last edit: 1/24/2015 6:23:50 PM)
show user profile  herfst1
Not sure... but don't group. Use select-and-link. Also, a good layering system comes in handy.
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1/24/2015 6:58:49 PM (last edit: 1/24/2015 6:58:49 PM)
show user profile  S. Silard
I know it's kind of old thread, but... the linking is the reason why he can't use group on a certain object. If that object is already linked to another group. Or using some kind of IK constraints. It's not allowed because it would mess up the hierarchy.

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2/14/2015 3:18:48 PM (last edit: 2/14/2015 3:18:48 PM)
show user profile  Mr_Stabby
more specifically, if any object is linked outside the group your grouping, there be no grouping!

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2/14/2015 10:24:01 PM (last edit: 2/14/2015 10:24:01 PM)
show user profile  reeves1984
Thus why you do not use groups, a messy faux hierachy

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2/15/2015 12:30:55 PM (last edit: 2/15/2015 12:30:55 PM)
show user profile  yossioren113
i know but i've got a model from a customer that already grouped and i did an ungroup
but still something mess up there...

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2/17/2015 3:45:34 PM (last edit: 2/17/2015 3:45:34 PM)
show user profile  mike_renouf
Use containers.


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2/17/2015 6:15:42 PM (last edit: 2/17/2015 6:15:42 PM)
show user profile  herfst1
Not to be rude but... customer?
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2/17/2015 6:27:34 PM (last edit: 2/17/2015 6:27:34 PM)
show user profile  S. Silard
@herfst1 - He's newbie here, and in Max too, sure. But that doesn't mean he don't have experience with 3D related stuff.

P.S.: I love to use grouping, layering, linking, skinning all at once, you just have to write things down, or keep it in your had.

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2/18/2015 4:54:19 AM (last edit: 2/18/2015 4:54:19 AM)
show user profile  digs
grouping in max = ok, safe, and acceptable. eVeN for rigging

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2/18/2015 5:23:02 AM (last edit: 2/18/2015 5:25:09 AM)
show user profile  herfst1
Wasn't asking you, Silard. Keep your comments towards me in your had, kinda tired of your jealousy (and you editing comments after I've had a go at you).
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2/18/2015 6:19:28 AM (last edit: 2/18/2015 6:19:28 AM)
show user profile  FX
Nested layers, any other organization method in max is over convoluted dysfunctional unfinished nonsense, same with state sets or scene states or whatever the fuck they call them these days, in theory they should work, in practice they are infuriating, counter productive and bug ridden.

I use groups as a temp solution to selecting lots of objects, then ungroup them onto a nested layer of their own.

"if any object is linked outside the group your grouping, there be no grouping"

never knew this..happened to me a few times..good tip.
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2/18/2015 12:12:44 PM (last edit: 2/18/2015 12:14:37 PM)
show user profile  mike_renouf
I don't want to derail this thread, but here's a question:

If you use a linking hierarchy to organise objects, is there a quick way to create a new instance of that hierarchy? I like groups from the point of view that you can quickly create a group and then instance it all over the scene by shift-dragging. You can't do that with a hierarchy it seems?

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2/18/2015 2:01:06 PM (last edit: 2/18/2015 2:01:06 PM)
show user profile  FX
Yup you can just copy and paste the trees using the schematic view.

edit: or just crtl v the selected objects, it should retain the hierarchy.

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2/18/2015 2:14:31 PM (last edit: 2/18/2015 2:16:44 PM)
show user profile  mike_renouf
Yay - thanks FX.

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2/18/2015 2:18:16 PM (last edit: 2/18/2015 2:18:16 PM)
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