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Buying a dSLR on a budget.
show user profile  ChadC
Quick background. I started shooting ~2 years ago when I took a photography class for the "easy" credit. I used a friends EOS film slr. I fell in love. My girlfriends dad gave me his Elan 7. I shot on that until a little over a year ago when it was stolen. Since then I've been camera less. I've use a friends Rebel XT from time to time for different projects. I don't love the camera but it got the job done. Come the new year I've been able to start doing some research to finally purchase my own camera. My original plan had been to save for a 40D. Now I am second guessing myself and wondering if I should just settle for the Rebel XSI. What does everyone think?

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1/16/2009 1:35:25 PM (last edit: 1/16/2009 1:35:25 PM)
show user profile  Dub.
tthe body is less important than the lenses you choose. Spend more thought and money on the lenses and then just get whatever body you can afford after that.

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1/16/2009 1:39:27 PM (last edit: 1/16/2009 1:39:27 PM)
show user profile  Kajico
what Dub says, also ;_; for your Elan 7, I used one for years until it got stolen too.

The Rebel with a good lens will get you some good results.

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1/16/2009 1:41:14 PM (last edit: 1/16/2009 1:41:14 PM)
show user profile  jonnybravo_87
lenses make a big difference m8...invest in those. They retain their value over time so it's a good investment compared to the body witch goes down in price much faster. I got a nikon d80 just recently for a bargain price just cause it got old technology wise. I think i'll use it till i'll brake it though....i'll invest my money only in lenses for a while. *starts dreaming at the 105 mm micro nikkor White Death

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1/16/2009 2:11:57 PM (last edit: 1/16/2009 2:11:57 PM)
show user profile  Error404
on a budget? get a used 300d or one of the DSLR's from a few years ago :-) Then a cheap 50mm f1.8 to get you started :-)

alot of people sell off their year or two old digital cameras to get the newest models, so you can find the used one pretty easy, and usually pretty cheap too :-) -

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1/16/2009 6:44:37 PM (last edit: 1/16/2009 6:46:52 PM)
show user profile  Kajico
i agree with Error, because if I'm not mistaken the new rebels require adapters in order to use the standard SLR lenses, if you buy a 20D you won't have to get an adapter and you get more features.

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1/16/2009 6:48:02 PM (last edit: 1/16/2009 6:48:02 PM)
show user profile  Error404
adapters? not that I'm aware of, they should take any canon EF mount lens just fine. -

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1/16/2009 7:08:49 PM (last edit: 1/16/2009 7:08:49 PM)
show user profile  Kajico
derp I googled it, now I remember, the Rebel's lens that comes in the Kit will not fit older EOS cameras. I stand corrected.

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1/16/2009 7:36:13 PM (last edit: 1/16/2009 7:36:13 PM)
show user profile  Error404
it will fit (assuming it's still an EOS camera, not the older FD from the 80's) but the EFS lenses won't fully cover a full chip. The EOS cameras can take both the EF and the EFS, but the EFS is designed to cover only the smaller chips. The mount is the same, but there will be heavy vignetting with an EFS lens on a full chip (or film) camera. -

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1/16/2009 8:11:15 PM (last edit: 1/16/2009 8:11:35 PM)
show user profile  ChadC
Thanks guys for the advice.

I already have a 50mm 1.8, we had to buy it for class and i've been using it ever since. Aside from that, my elan was stolen with an 18-55 or 70, i really don't remember i wasn't really paying attention at the time to exactly what it was.

I am thinking of picking up the Rebel XS. From what I've read it seems to be the XTi with a few of the features from the XSi. Only noticeable difference (to me) is the 7 autofocus points. The kit comes with the 18-55IS lens.

Currently I do head shots, band promo and live shots as well as Architecture photography. What lens should I be looking into? I already have the 50mm 1.8 standard lens and assuming I get the XS kit that comes with the 18-55IS what should I be looking into? Or, would it be better to just get the XS body and a different lens? Additionally I'd like to pick up a flash. This I really know nothing about.. except that at most of the live shows I need one. On that note I will most likely need a flash remote for those long Architecture shot exposure times.

Thanks again for all the help and advice guys.

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1/17/2009 4:34:29 PM (last edit: 1/17/2009 4:34:29 PM)
show user profile  Error404
the 50/1.8 will do nicely for head shots, especially on a cropped sensor camera, it will be a nice portrait lens. I've shot several bands with the 50/1.8 (as well as other 50mm lenses), it's a good lens, feels cheap, but optically it's pretty good.

as for the camera and lens you want to pick up, the 18-55is would probably be a good 'walk around lens' so to speak. And for flashes, the camera will have a built in flash, if you want one off-camera you can get one of the canon flashes and IR trigger for remote triggering.

Off-camera flashes is something that I'm actually getting into right now. I can say that the cheap (cactus V2) radio transmitters/recievers are reliable enough to confirm your interest in off-camera flash shooting, but not reliable enough to use on a regular basis. Out of 20 shots, I get about 1 or 2 shots that fail to trigger one of my flashes. The Cactus V2 is super cheap though, and might be worth it to check out before you lay down money for a nice Pocket Wizard setup... just to make sure you really want to invest in off-camera shooting :-) -

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1/17/2009 6:40:12 PM (last edit: 1/17/2009 6:47:27 PM)
show user profile  ChadC
Error: Thanks again for the taking the time to explain these things. I just looked at your shots in the "What are you working on photography" thread. They really look great.

I am rethinking the off camera flashes though.. seems to be a bit advanced for me at this point. That said I still think I will need an additional on camera flash. The built in flash isn't enough for some shots I will be taking of bands. I guess the canon flash will do fine for that as well?

Hopefully I'll be purchasing in the next few weeks. Soon as I get my taxes out and have a full handle on the financial situation.

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1/19/2009 9:32:40 AM (last edit: 1/19/2009 9:32:40 AM)
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