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Building a new rig!
show user profile  soontekk
Hey peeps,

I want to build a fairly performant yet cost effective rig to last untill somewhere next year when i most probably will be getting a dual 8core or something.

Some things i would like to integrate into it:
-win 7 64
-intel 6core i7 at about 3.33ghz
-good mainboard with usb3, fast sata and 6 banks of ram support
- a fast boot disk (thinking the 300gb velociraptor)
-2 decent 2tb HD's (pref enterprise grade)
-1 nvidia 480 card (and adding a second later)
-16 gb ram (adding 8 more later)

some things i am wondering about:
-i am thinking of getting an asus mainboard, i have always loved asus, any suggestions are welcome
-i am wondering if there are better/faster systemdisks than the wd velociraptor (same pricerange ofc)
-can i add a 3rd screen to the system using the nv480's hdmi port ?

any ideas, remarks or suggestions are welcome.
cheers, kurt

Final Rig Specs (updating this):
-Intel i7 980 extreme 6x3.33ghz (quite faster than its xeon twin due to 6400gt/sec)
-Asus Mainboard P6X58D Premium (1366X58-DDR3-USB3) also has 3xsli 6400bus support
-Intel 160g SSD boot/os with less than 0,1 access time
-1 wd caviar black 2tb project disk
-2 wd caviar green 2tb storage and backup disks
-24gb kingston ddr3 1333mhz ram
-Asus nv480 gfx card
-Corsair 950W psu
-Logitech Illuminated keyboard

This machine wil run on w7 64 ultimate and will provide a home for max2011,adobe master cs5, vray,zbrush and octane render

melting ur brainz!
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6/28/2010 11:35:34 PM (last edit: 7/20/2010 10:46:29 AM)
show user profile  Mashedpot8er
Hi there. My only real relevant thoughts besides mmmmmmmmm.... nice setup, are why not go for a solid state drive as your main OS drive and what about one of these for your cooling. :)

http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/prods/Components/Cooling/Watercooling/Corsair/C-CWCH50-1.html





Cad Monkey


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6/29/2010 1:07:17 AM (last edit: 6/29/2010 1:07:17 AM)
show user profile  albongino
Have you considered TYAN motherboards?
I've used them always and would recommend them to anyone,

slamming rig you're about to set up anyway..
................



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6/29/2010 1:15:14 AM (last edit: 6/29/2010 1:15:14 AM)
show user profile  parkerfamily
go with the MSI big bang motherboard! the Hydra chip is phenomenal! then all the boring normal stuff like x58 bridge

edit: ooh, just looked it up again, it seems to not have nearly the ram slots your looking at. scratch it then... well darn. got everything else you mentioned, usb 3.0 and all.

for the same price range the velociraptor is simply smashing the competition AFAIK

you could add a third screen with HDMI but either you'd need an adaptor or a screen with HDMI in.

if your not a gamer i would highly recommend the HD5970 instead of the 480. the 5970 just blows everything else away in terms of simple power, the fermi chips only do so incredibly well benchmarking because they're well optimised for directx11. the 5000 series is considerably more powerful for max's viewport and hardware rendering.

nice ram... i'm still on 6 and need to add 6 more at some point. what speeds are you getting? try and find some with low latencies, not just high clocks.

and quick side note for the cpu, grab a Xigmatek Dark Knight cooler. raise the voltage a good bit on the cooler (i have mine nearly doubled, they've got fantastic motors in them, and they're pretty quiet too) and then you can pretty safely get 3.8-4 on an i7.

as for watercooling, just yuck. it doesn't sound expensive at all, hardly more than air coolers and all, but the extra work of replacing your fluid every 4-6 months and after a year or 2 replacing the tubing, it's just not pleasant. not to mention unless you REALLY like to overclock, you won't need it.

i would be more than impressed if you actually need 4 terabytes, so have you considered mirroring your drives to protect them?

and in all honesty i would just go for windows 7 ultimate. i mean, it's 20 bucks more than professional, and home premium just plain sucks.
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6/29/2010 1:16:29 AM (last edit: 6/29/2010 1:21:01 AM)
show user profile  tuna
if your not a gamer i would highly recommend the HD5970 instead of the 480. the 5970 just blows everything else away in terms of simple power, the fermi chips only do so incredibly well benchmarking because they're well optimised for directx11. the 5000 series is considerably more powerful for max's viewport and hardware rendering.

ATI driver issues aside (if he ever ventures outside of max & games), I would say for DCC stuff, NVidia has the advantage with CUDA/physX right now, as more and more applications start using it to accelerate things.

as for watercooling, just yuck.

I have the H50 that Mashedpot8er recommended and it's awesome. I run my i7 930 @4ghz easily and the temps are good with it. It's also a completely self contained unit and super clean and easy to install.


And the answer on 3 monitors off one nvidia card is "no". It will only drive two. Just get dual 30" or something if you're desperate for more resolution.
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6/29/2010 1:35:51 AM (last edit: 6/29/2010 1:35:51 AM)
show user profile  Poopsmith
I'm about to build a new rig too, I really want a 480 but they are kind of pricey. Why not keep your old video card to run the third monitor? I'm trading my 8800 to a friend for a 7600 just to run a third monitor/TV off of.
3d 2d digital artist special effects poopsmith

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6/29/2010 7:18:53 AM (last edit: 6/29/2010 7:18:53 AM)
show user profile  soontekk
Hey guys, thx for the many replies.

Mashedpot8er: cheers mate, i might consider that h20 thing, looks nice and compact with no hassle! on the ssd however, i looked at ssd drives and they are just too $$ for what you get, pitty..

Albongino: i am a huge asus fanboy and never tried tyan, i once used msi boards and got what i deserved, failing workstations for my employees. so i'm a bit cautious these days.

Parkerfamily: i only use msi boards for cheap renderslaves these days, read above :)
i really wanna stick with nvidia because of cuda/physix (i use rayfire which is physix based), i also have had bad experiences with ati in the past. Basically what Tuna said.

the ram will be nice and i'm looking forward to that. i also have a windows volume license and can hence install win 7 64 ultimate on all my rigs and slaves :)

Tuna: it looks awesome too, the self-contained factor looks like a winner to me. does it ever need maintenance other than dust removal ?
About the hdmi port on the 480, surely it can send out some kind of image no ? or only a copy of your main screen ?
In any case i will be adding a second 480 later and maybe work with my 9800 to drive extra screens for now like Poopsmith suggested.


if anyone knows a good workstation class mainboard please link it so i can have a look at the specs.

i read something about hybrid harddrives who have a few gb's ssd and the rest normal hd platters for buffering at high speeds. reviews scream pure awesomeness. did anyone spot one of these yet ?

anyway, cheers for the help sofar.
i'll keep you posted on the progress of the rig
kurt

melting ur brainz!
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6/29/2010 10:57:30 AM (last edit: 6/29/2010 10:59:40 AM)
show user profile  soontekk
rig specs updated in first post

what are the benefits of having w7 ultimate over premium or business ?

according to this benchmark i will double my wks speed on cpu alone http://www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
next to that the added ram and cuda power will not go unnoticed methinks :o

melting ur brainz!
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6/29/2010 12:22:20 PM (last edit: 6/29/2010 12:26:26 PM)
show user profile  soontekk
Current Rig Specs (updating this):
-Intel i7 980 extreme 6x3.33ghz (quite faster than its xeon twin due to 6400gt/sec)
-Asus Mainboard P6X58D Premium (1366X58-DDR3-USB3) also has 3xsli 6400bus support
-WD velociraptor 300gb boot disk, 2x 2tb storage wd caviar black
-16gb kingston ddr3 hyperX ram (2x4gb added later)
-asus nv480 gfx card (adding second one later)

This machine wil run on w7 64 ultimate and will provide a home for max2011,adobe master cs5, vray,zbrush and octane render

any remarks towards this setup are more than welcome although it seems the above is what it should be.
quite excited about the mainboard as well, anyone who has it ?
cheers,k

melting ur brainz!
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6/29/2010 10:29:04 PM (last edit: 6/29/2010 10:29:04 PM)
show user profile  Poopsmith
I have 2 suggestions:
1. Buy an SSD instead of a Raptor
2. Buy 2 480's now, ship one to me, and then I'll buy you one in a year or two when they are cheap ;)
3d 2d digital artist special effects poopsmith

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6/29/2010 11:31:19 PM (last edit: 6/29/2010 11:31:19 PM)
show user profile  soontekk
or better yet
ill buy an ssd in a year or two when they are dirt cheap and then ill send you my worn down raptor :p

melting ur brainz!
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6/30/2010 12:13:17 AM (last edit: 6/30/2010 12:13:17 AM)
show user profile  Nik Clark
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/blogs/2010/06/28/why-cheap-ssds-just-arent-worth-the-cash/

Make of this what you will.



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6/30/2010 12:14:35 AM (last edit: 6/30/2010 12:14:35 AM)
show user profile  soontekk
wont be another few years till ssd makes any sense for most ppl

after some calculation it seems my current setup will run fine on the corsair 620 modular psu i already have. however, if i max it out in the next months dual 480, 24gb ram, over 4tb storage this baby will eat watts like the LHC on a busy day...
or does modular mean it can cope with lots more ?

i think ill add a corsair 1000w modular psu to be on the safe side..

melting ur brainz!
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6/30/2010 1:20:17 PM (last edit: 6/30/2010 1:20:17 PM)
show user profile  soontekk
made my hd setup more energy efficient keeping power on the project disk and swapped a caviar black 2tb for 2x 1.5 caviar black, same price, more energy efficient, more storage

melting ur brainz!
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6/30/2010 3:31:29 PM (last edit: 6/30/2010 3:31:29 PM)
show user profile  joelr
don't know of any specific board, but i work with gigabyte boards for a few years now, since my asus ones failed me. they seem very well made.
but once again, i cant give you a specific model that i know and recommend...

by the way, which case are you using? if your looking for one, i just read a great review about the cooler master HAF. saying i might be the best case ever if you don't mind it being the ugliest case in the world...

and the annoying question: how much is this rig going to cost you?

Joel



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6/30/2010 7:24:42 PM (last edit: 6/30/2010 7:24:42 PM)
 
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