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Autodesk going subscription only..
show user profile  ScotlandDave
I've just read about this myself although probably a few on here know about it already - Autodesk have announced they will move to the subscription only model ( similar to Adobe ) from Feb 2016..

Personally i like the Adobe cloud thing as i've already mentioned on here. It makes access to software and updating way more affordable for small businesses and self-employed individuals - but i can completely understand why people would want to be able to purchase a one-time offline copy of the software ( this should be an option )..

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2/6/2015 2:45:54 AM (last edit: 2/6/2015 2:45:54 AM)
show user profile  Bolteon
the reason why the adobe version works is because it's 20 a month.

max is now 180 a month.

there is not 9x the value of photoshop in each install of max, this will lead to them going bankrupt...

-Marko Mandaric

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2/6/2015 3:05:52 AM (last edit: 2/6/2015 3:06:17 AM)
show user profile  ScotlandDave
20 a month? Dollars??

It's £47 GBP per month here for Adobe which is the equivalent of $72 USD per month.. Tell me we are not getting ripped off that badly..

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2/6/2015 3:22:32 AM (last edit: 2/6/2015 3:22:32 AM)
show user profile  Bolteon
think you might be...

side note, i'm glad i've never paid a damn fucking dollar to autodesk.

-Marko Mandaric

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2/6/2015 3:25:02 AM (last edit: 2/6/2015 3:25:10 AM)
show user profile  ScotlandDave
Ah right i didn't realise it was possible to get photoshop on it's own..

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2/6/2015 3:30:54 AM (last edit: 2/6/2015 3:30:54 AM)
show user profile  Bolteon
does anyone actually use the other programs, like seriously?

not some mograph fru fru shit. like actually useful stuff. cause in all honesty, photoshop is the only program from them that has no real equal.

all the others have better/cheaper alternatives that are as good.

-Marko Mandaric

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2/6/2015 3:34:41 AM (last edit: 2/6/2015 3:35:55 AM)
show user profile  luxxeon
Dreamweaver is still pretty damn good.

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2/6/2015 5:02:05 AM (last edit: 2/6/2015 5:02:05 AM)
show user profile  Bolteon
so is Notepad++...

-Marko Mandaric

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2/6/2015 5:06:41 AM (last edit: 2/6/2015 5:06:41 AM)
show user profile  Nik Clark
Other than Photoshop, we use Flash a lot to generate html5-based e-learning content. There is no equivalent at the moment.

I use Audition, but only because it's part of the bundle. 90% of the Adobe cloud apps are a waste of time.

When I have to pay for four Max seats at $180 a month, I will be told that there's no budget for it, so Autodesk are going to lose our custom. I'm already working on getting Autodesk out of our pipeline.

Paying a subscription fee for a program that hardly improves year on year is taking the piss.

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2/6/2015 9:40:31 AM (last edit: 2/6/2015 9:40:31 AM)
show user profile  ScotlandDave
Agreed re Notepad++, and for web stuff the dev tools inside most of the browsers makes dreamweaver etc a bit pointless..

Marko yeah i guess for any industry standard vfx pipeline when choosing between AE and Nuke there's no choice. AE still is as slow as hell and trying to work with 32bit is almost pointless.. Deep compositing is not what it's for. But it is still highly capable and accessible and the tool of choice for generalists.. Illustrator, InDesign etc are still staples in the Graphic Design world and Adobe are doing their best to stay on top of the HTML5 and web development technologies market.. So, no it aint just photoshop :) Maybe for you it is :) And btw the free online photoshop clone as well as opensource apps like Gimp are just as capable for general tasks and sortof prove that PS although is a successful brand is not the holy-grail of image editing and just about anybody could release an alternative as long as the UI and functionality was workable..

[edit] And the point about the UI is a sort of point in case.. UI is such an unbelievably important thing for any piece of software and often overlooked in the name of `features` under the hood etc. With the exception of tools like zbrush which brought something completely unique and powerful to the market and so the dodgy UI was overlooked. I said this to AS a million times, if it looks like shit nobody is going to want to use it, no matter how great you think it is. Blender is another example, it is on a par and in some cases exceeds the functionality of expensive industry standard software, but because people find the UI difficult it sits by the wayside..

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2/6/2015 10:16:24 AM (last edit: 2/6/2015 10:22:40 AM)
show user profile  antoin_currie
I use 3ds max education edition.
Will this mean that in Feb 2016 it will become deactivated or does it just mean that any more new purchases for 3ds max after that date will have to be on subscription?

Also, I agree that this could indeed be the demise of Max, well especially for small and possibly medium sized businesses.

I'm thinking is it worth starting to learn another application in case this does become the case and knowing how to use max becomes an obsolete skill!
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2/6/2015 10:34:04 AM (last edit: 2/6/2015 10:34:04 AM)
show user profile  Nik Clark
I still have the feeling Autodesk want to kill Max off and only develop Maya. A few months ago, iRay and mentalray development went under Autodesk's wing, and oh look, the development blogs and previews of upcoming features have stopped, other than the occasional mention of Maya.

Bah humbug.

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2/6/2015 10:56:04 AM (last edit: 2/6/2015 10:56:04 AM)
show user profile  3joez
Pfff, Maya.
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2/6/2015 11:56:56 AM (last edit: 2/6/2015 11:56:56 AM)
show user profile  reeves1984
the range of difference in complexity between notepad++ (which I <3), potatoshop, and then a full 3d app is massive

But autodesk's pricing is definetly too high for such old software, I think foundry's is too high too (and their subscription is too high) at least side effects innovate for their high price.

I think renting is useful for us, you cant rent for 2 1/2 years (or 3?) before it's the same cost of buying it. And in that time max could/should be dead, maya could be much better out of the box, houdini might be more suitable for all, modo might be much better
or who knows!

Not having to commit, rent a few seats for freelancers, handy.

I've been using maya for last couple of months and it's pretty rediculously lacking out of the box. (I'm talking scene set up/management rendering) Compared to XSI that is, which IS(was) still fucking great at that.
Max is terrible though for that stuff, Maya's way of doing it is shit, but at least it has it (I'm not counting state sets they're unreliable in the real world)

Max basically has no hierarchy, can barely handy large geometry...

Simon Reeves - VFX Artist & Blog
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2/6/2015 12:20:46 PM (last edit: 2/6/2015 1:10:08 PM)
show user profile  Sir_Manfred
Maya is awful

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2/6/2015 1:39:00 PM (last edit: 2/6/2015 1:39:00 PM)
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