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any flash gurus here?
show user profile  STRAT
need a quick bit of advise





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8/22/2006 4:45:29 AM (last edit: 8/22/2006 4:45:29 AM)
show user profile  modena_Art_3


i wouldnt call myself a 'guru'..but go on...
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8/22/2006 4:51:11 AM (last edit: 8/22/2006 4:51:11 AM)
show user profile  timpa
Ive made the odd flash site.....


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8/22/2006 4:59:21 AM (last edit: 8/22/2006 4:59:21 AM)
show user profile  STRAT
In work we have a standard showreel/screen saver which is a constant looping flash file. this file is a mixture of photographs and computer stills/anims of bits and bobs we've done in the office.

the sequence lasts for about 4 mins, and the material is transitioned together with slides, fades, disolves etc etc, all the usual, but it also has custom fades, line drawing style fades (in the form of some of our buildings) flashing cubes, sketchy drawn custom fades etc etc.
you get the idea - a small eye candy showreel for us.

we have a specialist firm we use who created it for us a year or so back, and we approach them every 6 months with a load of updates we'd like to be included in the reel.

thing is, my boss doesnt like this method because he thinks these fellers are most expensive, and the reel needs updating at least every month with new material let alone 6 months.


so here's the gig -

he's asked me to look into doing it in-house. something i definately dont want to get into.
he wants to know what software we'll need and how easy/hard it would be to learn.

i personally think it's an expensive specialist subject, which is why we pay specialists a fortune to do it. my boss thinks it's a simlpe case of buying in the relevant s/w, spending a couple of days learning it, then spending 1 or 2 days once a month updating the showreel.

i dont want to get into this feild personally, i think it's more indepth than it sounds and will take me away from my 3d modelling for allot more than 1-2 days per month.

what do you guys think?

is it expensive in cost of software and man hours to use?
could someone learn how to competently use it from scratch real quick?
is it better leave it to a dedicated user?

thanks for any opinions fellers





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8/22/2006 5:04:56 AM (last edit: 8/22/2006 5:04:56 AM)
show user profile  modena_Art_3


This is purely subjective, but imo flash is relatively easy to learn especially if you are doing straight forward animation without any obvious scripting but i can change my answer if it will get you off the hook.
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8/22/2006 5:10:57 AM (last edit: 8/22/2006 5:10:57 AM)
show user profile  loki
I've done a lot of things in flash (including my current website).

I can tell you the flash basics about drawing and simple animation isn't too tough to learn but advanced stuff is hard especially when AS (ActionScript, the flash language that is) is needed.

maybe you're better off if you asked the specialists about implementing a XML interface to a showreel body, so you only have to throw in the new pics into an xml file. but that's only an option if you always use the same set of transitions. if every transition is picture depending you have to do it by hand.


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8/22/2006 5:21:08 AM (last edit: 8/22/2006 5:22:12 AM)
show user profile  modena_Art_3
you could try animating in AE or Combustion cause i think the latest versions export to swf.
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8/22/2006 5:34:49 AM (last edit: 8/22/2006 5:34:49 AM)
show user profile  vishesh
Flash is very easy to learn. i spend 15 days in learning flash. than i spend 15 days in making my website. i have even used some scripting but i got the code from internet, so i don't take credit 4 that :D
also u don't need to learn Action Script. u can make nice animations without that.

so u can use and learn flash easily :)

>>>>>i dont want to get into this feild personally, i think it's more indepth than it sounds and will take me away from my 3d modelling for allot more than 1-2 days per month.

well all i can say is u need to spend alot of time in making the first showreel. updations are easy to make. but maing a fresh showreel gonna take some time.
Yeah u have to leave 3D for a couple of days a month i guess.

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i think updating the showreel once a month is not a good idea. showreel is not abt how much content u have, its abt the quality of content. i have never seen anyone updating the showreel once a month.

i think updating showreel once in 6 months is a better approach.

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8/22/2006 5:40:33 AM (last edit: 8/22/2006 5:41:55 AM)
show user profile  STRAT
what software will we need? and what kind of money costs are we talking?






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8/22/2006 5:48:35 AM (last edit: 8/22/2006 5:53:50 AM)
show user profile  erne
Yup.. My experience is also that flash is quite easy to learn... I've made lots of small stuf, and small not to script-heavy stuff is quite easy once you get the hang of the basis.

I'd agree with your boss.... Allthough I haven't seen the actual flash animation you mention, but it shouldn't be too hard...

sorry if that's the wrong answer ;-)




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8/22/2006 5:48:39 AM (last edit: 8/22/2006 5:48:39 AM)
show user profile  erne
you'd just need the flash software.. check adobes website for price info





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8/22/2006 5:53:10 AM (last edit: 8/22/2006 5:53:10 AM)
show user profile  STRAT
erne - yeah but what kind, there's several bits out there. i know nothing.





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8/22/2006 5:54:40 AM (last edit: 8/22/2006 5:54:40 AM)
show user profile  modena_Art_3
>>erne - yeah but what kind, there's several bits out there

there are?

just get the stand alone authoring package, dont know of any other kind - unless you are talking about some studio bundle with freehand/fireworks etc?
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8/22/2006 5:57:24 AM (last edit: 8/22/2006 5:57:24 AM)
show user profile  erne
check here: http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/flashpro/

I suppose you could find some price info somewhere on that site.
As far as I know you should be able do do it all with that single peice of software. whithin that package you can import of your imagery, do layout, timing, transition effects, other stuff ;-) , and do the final output to a .swf movie that you can upload to your site...

Is it possible to see that reel online somwhere?




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8/22/2006 6:09:11 AM (last edit: 8/22/2006 6:25:48 AM)
show user profile  STRAT
it's about 25 mb, i'll upload it to my server tonight for you





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8/22/2006 6:30:36 AM (last edit: 8/22/2006 6:30:36 AM)
 
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