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Another Computer Build Thread...
show user profile  Sylverstalker
Hey guys,

I know you get this a lot but I am after a bit of advice. I have spent some time inside of computers doing the simple stuff like adding, swapping in and out hard drives, disc drawers RAM and other cards without a problem but I have never built a machine in its entirety. This is why I would be grateful for any advice I can get.

I have been given a budget of between $2,000 and $3,000 AUD to build my father a fairly high end machine to be used for a range of purposes. I have been given a few guidelines too. It was requested that it had a professional level Creative sound card, 2 disc drawers for burning DVD's (Blu-Ray is not really a concern) and that it operates off of a SSD. I have no experience with SSDs either so I will need to do a bit of research.

At the moment the parts that are looking to be appropriate to me (not that that is saying much...) are as follows:

MOTHER BOARD: Intel Z68V DZ68ZV LGA1155 ATX Motherboard
PROCESSOR: Intel i7 2700K 3.5GHz
SSD: 120GB Corsair Force Series
HDD: Seagate 2TB Barracuda® Green SATA 3 2TB
SOUND CARD: Creative Xfi Titanium Fatal1ty Champion Series
RAM: 16GB DDR3 Corsair Vengeance Dual Channel (4x4GB)

I know I have a fair few other things that I need to consider that I may ask about as it goes on but I was wondering if I was heading in the right direction with this and whether some of the parts here are ill advised or not.

Thanks in advance any help would be fantastic.

:D




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7/1/2012 2:41:05 PM (last edit: 7/1/2012 2:41:05 PM)
show user profile  Mr_Stabby
for cpu a 3570K is faster and cheaper, there is of course the 3770K which offers extra 100mhz and HT for extra 100 bucks if you like (money much better spent elsewhere).

the sound card is quality wise reminiscent of xtrememusic series(now worth ~20 bucks) but with a crapton of "gamer" enhancements, a lot of boom and twang. For the same price i'd recommend a Xonar Essence STX over it any day.

Intel makes nice cpu's for sure but their motherboards.. not so nice. If you're going to spend 200 bucks on a mobo might as well make it a z77 Sabertooth.

You are also missing a video card, HD 6850 is the price/performance sweetspot right now but without more information cant really recommend anything.

As for the double dvd bays - woah :p time to introduce your dad to usb3 mem sticks or protable hdd's

As a general guideline though - dont force to meet the budget limit by getting overpriced parts, send the remainder to a charity if you like or better yet me :p


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7/1/2012 2:59:56 PM (last edit: 7/1/2012 3:02:40 PM)
show user profile  Sylverstalker
Thanks heaps for such a fast reply Stabby :D

I feel the same way about the DVD drawers...he uses portable drives a lot as well but seems to really really want the DVD drives...they seem pretty cheap so I wasn't going to argue the point. It is a bit of an issue getting specifics about what is wanted for a few things as really the directive was just to make something that would not leave him wanting for anything for quite a few years to come. So I guess I have been getting a little carried away with meeting the budget....

Thanks for the sound card advice, I have no idea about them. I will put that mode to him ad see what he thinks.

lol, I completely forgot to put down what video card I was looking at. It was an nvidia one but as far as I can tell the HD 6850 is both better priced and better quality.

Thanks again, you have reduced my research time by a fair amount :D




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7/1/2012 3:16:37 PM (last edit: 7/1/2012 3:16:37 PM)
show user profile  Sylverstalker
Well here is what I’m looking at for the final build it may vary from this a small amount based on the availability of some of the parts. Does it all seem fine? Is any of it unnecessarily over the top? Any other recommendations for change?

Motherboard: SABERTOOTH Z77
Chosen on your advices, it looks pretty crazy. I talked through the specs of it that I understood and my father liked the sound of it.

CPU: i7-3770K Processor
I gave my father the talk through between this and the i5 3570K and he much preferred the sound of the i7 for the cost increase.

Graphics: AMD Radeon HD 6850
This will easily cover everything he will need to do and my occasional use of the machine.

Sound: Xonar Essence STX
As I said before I really don’t know much about sound cards but I think this one will do what my father was doing with the card in his old machine. He uses it to digitise vinyls and the like.

SSD: 120GB Corsair Force Series
Should be plenty big enough for the OS and his software.

HDD: Seagate 2TB Barracuda® Green SATA 3 2TB
Should be enough space to deal wit hall of his files for at least a few years.

RAM: 16GB DDR3 Corsair Vengeance Dual Channel (4x4 GB)
This is much more RAM than my machine has. Building this machine for him is going to make me sad.

PSU: Antec 750W High Current Gamer Power Supply
I wasn’t entirely sure how large a PSU this system would need. I figured a little more than needed is better than a little less than needed.

Case: Antec p280
I generally would look for the cheapest plainest case around but my father likes the cases with the doors on the front and for the cases that are fairly plain looking. The computer will be being run in a space that is better for it to be a little bit quieter.
As for drawers I’m thinking ill just get cheap LG ones or maybe even tear one of the ones out of his current machine before he gives it away. He can also just pick up whatever keyboard/mouse/monitor that he likes the look of at a local shop.

Thanks again for your advice.

EDIT: Actually thinking about getting a slightly smaller case than this one but one that is easily cooled as its environment can get quite warm. One of my main questions is whether the PSU is a bit too large....




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7/4/2012 3:45:27 AM (last edit: 7/4/2012 5:38:33 AM)
show user profile  Mr_Stabby
Assuming you wont overclock it, i'd say the build requires a minimum of 450w so yea 750w is a little overkill but who knows maybe he wants high end graphics at some point or 20 heavy duty fans or something :p Since PSU is the backbone of the computer though there is no reason to cheap out on that, for example the electricity in my building is terrible - i have to change light bulbs on a weekly basis, if it wasnt for my overpriced PSU my computer would probably be long dead.

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7/4/2012 11:07:24 AM (last edit: 7/4/2012 11:09:16 AM)
show user profile  Mr_Stabby
oh ya since you mentioned it can get hot - might also want to invest in some quality cooling since the intel inbox cooler they ship with these days is pretty pathetic.

NH-d14, silver arrow and PH-TC14PE are the best air coolers for s1155 (which one is the best of the best depends on which review you read), whatever you think looks cooler...

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7/4/2012 1:18:51 PM (last edit: 7/4/2012 1:18:51 PM)
show user profile  Sylverstalker
Yes I thought that PSU was a little too much for the job, I will get a slightly smaller one :P I will also look into some of those cooling options as I have managed to find a place that will deliver all the parts for a fairly nice price.

Thanks Mr_ Stabby you have been a huge help.




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7/4/2012 2:20:34 PM (last edit: 7/4/2012 2:20:34 PM)
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