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Any advice on building a computer to run 3ds max and other intensive apps?
show user profile  rd1010
After recently falling in love with the use of 3d modeling for building websites I have been dealing with the pain of having hardware that is too slow to run the software. I have even tried using cloud computing to no avail, as it won't work due to the lack of strong graphics cards in the cloud set-up.

Anyways, I am ready to order the pieces to build a machine that I hope can shred max as well as other intensive apps (like video editing software).

Please give me any input you can or point me to resources, I want to keep this as low cost as possible but also want to make sure that I get something that will work well enough.

Thanks!
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3/23/2009 4:50:51 PM (last edit: 3/23/2009 4:50:51 PM)
show user profile  9krausec
Number 1- Don't spend a shit ton of money on the top of the line graphics card... (no more than 300 or so I say)

Number 2- It would be cool if you were to use a server board with dual sockets for cpus. I don't know if you could utilize both processors on one program, but it is definitely worth looking into.




- Portfolio-




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3/23/2009 8:28:47 PM (last edit: 3/23/2009 8:28:47 PM)
show user profile  rd1010
Cool, thanks.. yeah I think the 2 processor thing is possible, BUT I think you would have to run Windows server in order for this to work. I am not sure on this and would appreciate any input.

I have been looking into this more, this is for reference:http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/item?siteID=123112&id=9886527

I think I will go with the cheapest graphics card that will work..

I have a question about quad processors, if anyone can help out with this.. is any quad necessarily better than another processor? I don't know much about processors, also what amount of RAM is recommended? The specs listed on the 3ds max site seem a bit "conservative" so I don't want to just go with the minimum.

Thanks
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3/23/2009 8:38:55 PM (last edit: 3/23/2009 8:38:55 PM)
show user profile  Stephen R.
as tested on two rigs, performance in common programs is based as follows:


3DS Max:

Viewport Speed: Graphics Card (Minimal gains from multi-gpu, mainly runs off your primary card)
Rendering Speed: Core Speed (FSB) primary, overall clock 2nd. More cores = faster, Ram third, get as much ram as you can afford, 12gb is fairly cheap if you go the i7 route, or 8 is even cheaper for you go for the Q series Core 2 Quad processors.

Photoshop:

Overall Speed: CPU for process/filter application, CS4 adds support for graphics acceleration, if you have CS4 having a nice graphics card will boost your canvas performance, otherwise it is all based on your CPU. Memory is a must here, otherwise with large files you will be page filing constantly, which will kill any good hard drive in a matter of months.

Load Speed: Drive storage system and its configuration, faster the drives, faster the load times, raid 0 or any stripped array will increase speeds.




My recommended budget setup for you:

Intel Q6600 G0 stepping CPU
Ram: 8gb DDR3 PC 1600ram (4x2gb modules)
Motherboard: Any cheap board that will run 4 sticks of ram, look into gigabyte's low end boards for a good budget board.
Graphics Card: Nvidia 9800GT/8800GTX




My Recommended "Nice" setup:

Intel Q9650 CPU / Intel i7 920 (motherboards are more expensive for the latter)
Ram: 8gb DDR3 1866 (Intel Q9650), 12gb DDR3 1600 (i7 920)
Motherboard: Budget board, careful on the i7 920 boards, not all of them have 6 ram slots.
Graphics Solution: Nvidia GTX 280



My recommended "Performance" rig for you:

Intel i7 920 CPU
Ram: 12gb DDR3 1600
Motherboard: Look into the gigabyte UD3R series motherboards.
GPU: GTX 295





"ultimate workstation" option:


CPU's: 4x AMD Opteron 2376 2.3ghz 45nm CPU
Motherboard: TYAN S4980G2NR
Memory: 12gb or more (this board supports up to 64gb memory), DDR2 FB-DIMM 677.
GPU: GTX 295






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3/23/2009 9:53:52 PM (last edit: 3/23/2009 9:53:52 PM)
show user profile  rd1010
Cool, thanks man for posting all of that, hopefully I can afford the "recommended nice setup"
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3/23/2009 10:52:13 PM (last edit: 3/23/2009 10:52:27 PM)
show user profile  Jock
You dont need to run windows server to get the use of 2 cpu's. I've got two in mine and im on Vista. You can use xp too so you arent restricted.
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3/24/2009 3:40:49 AM (last edit: 3/24/2009 3:40:49 AM)
show user profile  9krausec
I would defiantly go with a quad core or two. The I7s are (from what I hear, haven't really looked) becoming very affordable. I would also highly recommend building a x64 machine. I don't now much about 32 bit vs 64, but apparently 64 is more efficient, powerful, and you can hold more ram. It may kind of suck because you will have to buy a different OS that supports 64 bit, but I think down the road a few years you will be happy you made the change to x64.




- Portfolio-




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3/24/2009 6:33:10 AM (last edit: 3/24/2009 6:33:10 AM)
show user profile  rd1010
The two processor set up would be cool, I can't afford 2 CPU's at the moment.. so does anyone know if I can just run one for now in the 2 CPU board and add in one later? I mean, will it function with just one?

Also, about the x64, yes you do need a different OS, its definitely something I am going to consider for my next machine, I hope to sell the one I am building in a few months once I get my business going to buy an x64.
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3/24/2009 12:56:15 PM (last edit: 3/24/2009 12:57:31 PM)
show user profile  htt_75@yahoo.com
I usually shop at pricewatch.com for all my pc components.

I would go with intel core 2 quad and a cheap pcchip p55g with 4g of ram will do a nice job.

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3/25/2009 3:44:23 AM (last edit: 3/25/2009 3:44:23 AM)
show user profile  roan
hi alls, i'm new here and also in 3D world, i'm got 1 pc but i don't know this spec is support for 3D max 2009 - VRAY - etc ?
CPU : AMD2 PhenomII X4 940+ 64bit
Mainboard:ASUS M4A78 Pro
RAM DDR2 HyperX 1066 PC8500 kingston 8GB
HDD 1 Terrabyte
ASUS EN9800GTX+ Dark Knight 512MB DDR3
Run in WINXP SP3 64bit

b'cause i have a friend in 3D Design too, he said my computer need upgrade ram into 8GB or 16GB, because my Mainboard also support 16GB ... need advice please .. thank you very much.
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3/30/2009 9:59:47 AM (last edit: 3/30/2009 10:02:24 AM)
show user profile  nm8r
I really think building your own computer is false economy with the very rapid rate of obsolescence in digital. I used to build a lot of computers for my company and the cost in time and maintenance (sometimes with no warranty or separate warranties for each part) ends up more than just buying or leasing a new or refurbished branded computer. We don't keep any of our computers for more than 1.5 - 2 years.
Just my 2 cents.

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3/30/2009 10:54:28 AM (last edit: 3/30/2009 10:55:29 AM)
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