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60D or 5D MkII for DSLR video work?
show user profile  NLGFX_ger
Hey there :)

Long time no post... but here we go.

I am planning to invest into some video gear so I can offer live footage and photo stuff along with the CG stuff for my clients.

I have a limited budget here, so I am thinking about all the stuff carefully. What I have on my list so far:

- DSLR rig with matte box, follow focus with flex wire, monitor, accessories
- rode mic with boom
- flycam 3000 (or better get the glidecam hd2000? still not sure)
- video tripod with fluid head
- canon 24-70mm f2.8 L
- canon 70-200mm f2.8 L
- some more minor stuff

Weeeell... and now the camera body. Of course, the full frame 5D MkII is the absolute premium choice in terms of video quality (well, and everything else of course). I've worked with it for 2 days recently doing a short film and I was absolutely stunned by the quality of the footage it produces...

However, it costs around twice as much as the 60D, which is not THAT much worse. I mean not really half as good as the 5D. I haven't tested the 60D yet, but I have a T1i (500D) right now which has the same APS-C sized sensor. I have downloaded a couple of sample clips from the 60D and some look good, some don't. It's really hard to tell. Some clips look as good as the one I've made with the 5D but some really lack in sharpness. I don't know, maybe it's the cheaper lens some people tend to use on a 60D compared to the 5D?

So I wanna know... does it really pay off to get the 5D? I mean for photography YES of course. But if it's primarily for video use?? Does anyone have experience with that?

I see most of the professional DSLR video shooters use the 5D only. But is it because money isn't an issue with them anyway? Or maybe because only the newer crop sensor cameras (600D, 60D , 7D) offer the same features (for ex. manual video exposure, 1080p25/30) that older models didn't?

I really can't tell. I wanted to have the tamron 17-50mm f2.8 for steadycam shots as well, but I'd have to cut that in case I get the 5D. Along with some other minor stuff... so the question is - get the 60D with some extra stuff (such as the extra lenses) or cut some stuff from the shopping list and get the 5D instead?

Not sure if I would regret not getting the 5D in the end... opinions wanted! :)
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2/11/2012 3:53:53 PM (last edit: 2/11/2012 3:54:44 PM)
show user profile  Joey Parker Jr.
Not to confuse the matter but this just came out(or will in two days):
36 mp! Check out the HD movie all shot with available light.

http://www.nikonusa.com/Nikon-Products/Product/Digital-SLR-Cameras/25480/D800.html
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2/11/2012 4:26:44 PM (last edit: 2/11/2012 4:26:44 PM)
show user profile  joelr
i think a forum like cinema5d will be a better place to get some help on these matters.
but from what you described in your post im pretty sure that you should buy the 5dii. if you wont you will surely regret it. its very easy to hear people that really really want something but try to convince themselves that its not reasonable.
anyway, i have a 5dii and its amazing, but i don't use it professionally like you intend to.
other then that, i would suggest you go and ask at c5d.

good luck,
Joel



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2/11/2012 4:35:57 PM (last edit: 2/11/2012 4:35:57 PM)
show user profile  DannyMax
that D800 is I nice camera , I want one !




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2/11/2012 4:56:44 PM (last edit: 2/11/2012 4:56:44 PM)
show user profile  NLGFX_ger
Yeah the D800 is really nice... but it would be some sort of pain for me to switch vom Canon to Nikon :) I have done so much research by reading/watching reviews, testing out different lens etc. recently... and all concerning Canons, so I'd like to stick with that :)

joelr,

thanks man! I will check that one out... thanks for the recommendation :) I get your point about me really wanting the 5D ;) I know what you mean... but I have to hold myself back and really think economically - in terms of what really makes sense. Maybe I should test out a 60D in practical use to really compare. It's really hard. If the 60D would be like 200 Euros less than the 5D, I'd definetly go for the full frame - but its twice as much money and that really makes you thinking... :/
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2/11/2012 5:02:44 PM (last edit: 2/11/2012 5:02:44 PM)
show user profile  nm8r
I have the 5D mark II and a Sony HX9V. The Sony HX9V is an amazing camera for a point and shoot and we mix footage between both. Most people can't tell which camera we used when they see the videos.
The stabilization on the HX9V is so good that it's almost as if you are shooting with a steadicam.
I shoot with a Zacuto viewfinder attached so it's even more stable though.
I don't know if this comment would help or add more toys to your budget.
Shooting 60p on the HX9V is great too.
The price on the 5DMKII will likely come down in a few days especially if they announce a successor to it at the WPPI show in Vegas this February.
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2/11/2012 6:35:44 PM (last edit: 2/11/2012 7:17:47 PM)
show user profile  joelr
oh, by the way, if you haven't seen this yet, you should drop in to the zacuto website.
besides having some nice kit, they have produced professional films ("The Great Camera Shootout") in which they compare the quality of dslr against film cameras (in the 2010 film), and compare a few different dslrs between themselves in the 2011 film.

http://www.zacuto.com/original-web-content

i really suggest everyone that shoots video to see these films. and although you might think that because it was done buy a company, it might not be objective, you should see the professionals that they bring to work on this films and give critique.
by the way, they have the 5dii on both films, and compare it to different cameras, and talk about its pros and cons, so it might help you on your problem.
and on a final note, as the 800 just came out, my guess is that the 5diii is just around the corner, and when this happens you will see a price drop on the 5dii, so its maybe best to wait it out if you can.

joel



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2/11/2012 10:15:00 PM (last edit: 2/11/2012 10:15:16 PM)
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