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3D Printing Costs..
show user profile  ScotlandDave
I liked the idea of getting some words printed out in 3d, for sticking on the wall, maybe just a sentence or the kids names or similar, not huge but large enough to be legible when stuck to a wall..

So out of curiosity i went onto Sculpteo to get an idea of how much it'd cost.. Using the text creation tool on the site, and just the default 'enter your text here', with a size of 67cm x 3cm x 7cm and printing in white plastic, it's giving me a cost of 307 Euro's. That's over 200 quid in pounds sterling..

Am i doing something wrong here or is that the kind of price i should expect? Seems a damn lot of money.. I get that it's quite large ( it isn't really though is it ). Maybe if i created the 3d text model myself, and hollowed it out or something would that affect the cost? Just wondering what the parameters are here and why it's so expensive for their most basic material etc..

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11/26/2015 3:44:31 AM (last edit: 11/26/2015 3:52:36 AM)
show user profile  luxxeon
Did you create a wall thickness? That will help save printing cost, because otherwise it's being printed as a solid object, which uses a lot of material. You can create wall thickness in various applications by simply applying a shell modifier, or solidify to the existing manifold geometry. Usually, a minimum wall thickness of 0.8mm is required, but it depends also on the material.

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11/26/2015 4:24:12 AM (last edit: 11/26/2015 4:30:44 AM)
show user profile  ScotlandDave
Yeah i could do that myself in the 3d app but i just used the sculpteo text tool for quickness.. i'm guessing that's the problem.

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11/26/2015 5:38:01 AM (last edit: 11/26/2015 5:38:01 AM)
show user profile  joelr
You know you can go into a art supply shop and buy letters for very cheep.
I don't understand this fascination people have with 3D printing that makes them want to print everything.

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11/26/2015 6:09:04 AM (last edit: 11/26/2015 6:09:04 AM)
show user profile  ScotlandDave
Hehe yeah, i know that, i was just curious how much it'd cost, if i came up with an interesting idea.

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11/26/2015 6:27:07 AM (last edit: 11/26/2015 6:27:07 AM)
show user profile  soontekk
a few things will ramp up costs in 3d printing

Amount of material use (yes, always use a wall of lets say 1 mm 'not' full objects)
Scale, the larger...

Object space, try to 'bunch' up your objects to fit them in the smallest possible cube, sometimes they charge for longer objects because it requires a different (more expensive) printer

And some companies charge extra if you print multiple loose objects in 1 file. Try connecting them in a way you can

Try different firms (shapeways)

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11/26/2015 9:08:03 AM (last edit: 11/26/2015 9:08:03 AM)
show user profile  TiMoN
Just to add to what Soontekk said.

Depending on 3D printer type, there are ways to cut costs. Also some methods are much cheaper than others, FX. Zcorp can print in colors and costs less than most SLA, but SLA will give you much more details and will, most often, be more durable.

SLA, will not gain any advantage of the Shell modifier, since the whole object is submerged in material, and therefor will be full regardless of you only creating an outer shell. (unless you make a hole to pour material out of).

Pretty much all types benefit, from putting the model on the side that will make the.. least tall model. however, there may be issues with different accuracy in the XYZ axis, so maybe putting the model upright will create the best model, but it will cost more.
Of course this also depends on X, Y and Z speeds, but most machines benefit from creating as few layers as possible.

If you get outside the build area, then some RPT companies will cut the model, and glue it afterwards, but I assume that all companies list max build size.

My experience is quite old, since I haven't really worked with RPT since 2007. But what we could do with a proper SLA, SLS or Polyjet back then, still looks about a Squillion times better than what you get with a cheap home FDM 3D printer. So the price for pro 3D printing and what you can do with home printers is still hard to compare.

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11/26/2015 10:57:31 AM (last edit: 11/27/2015 1:05:52 PM)
show user profile  ScotlandDave
Thanks for the info chaps.

Even with that said, 200+ GBP seems a lot for a 60cm long bit of white plastic, especially given how widespread this tech is now. I'll look into creating the model manually, optimising on space and shelling it, and see what the best ballpark price i can get for it would be..

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11/26/2015 2:56:24 PM (last edit: 11/26/2015 2:56:24 PM)
show user profile  ccampbell
Hey Dave if you send over what you want and I can quote it for ya( C h r i s [a] F o r m U r L i f e (dot) c0m ). We run every kind of printer but metals. I can likely get what you want cheaper than most but what you want to do inst the best use for this tech.

For something simple like this though( if your keeping detail limited) maybe consider laser cutting them instead? Tons of materials, you can rent time or have it done cheaply and just need vectors for the cuts.

@TiMoN - Good info.

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11/27/2015 11:22:04 PM (last edit: 11/27/2015 11:25:36 PM)
show user profile  gogodr
^ this

Laser cutting is waaaay cheaper and will do what you want here.

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11/29/2015 6:25:35 AM (last edit: 11/29/2015 6:25:35 AM)
show user profile  ScotlandDave
Thanks for the offer CCampbell, i'll definitely think about that, although i'm not sure how import duties would affect the overall cost coming from the US to the UK..

Will also look into laser cutting, as i have no idea what's involved in that..

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12/2/2015 3:23:35 PM (last edit: 12/2/2015 3:23:35 PM)
show user profile  ccampbell
Yeah duties blow. We do ship world wide so we can help with that too haha. I dont imagine it would be more than $20.00. Our Cheapest and funnest(in my opnion) material 3d prints upto 600DPI Full Color( w/ texture map) and the resolution is fantastic so you could do some really neat stuff to the text if its for your kids. Send over the volume of whatever your trying to do (maybe a part or 2) and I can help.

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Laser cutting is awesome, its fast, simple, and great for low volume production. You can cut things like wood, plastics, papers, glass, and some metals but not all laser cutters are equal. What I had in mind for your needs was simple acrylic which comes in a million colors and thicknesses.

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12/2/2015 7:32:03 PM (last edit: 12/2/2015 7:33:18 PM)
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